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Re: To get a dog, or not...

by DomTheDogfather » Mon Feb 16, 2015 1:40 pm

A springers are lots of fun but are very intelligent and need a lot of exercise and mental stimulation (they like to work). Maybe have a look at a cockerpoo or minature schnauzer..they are both good 'London' dogs and a could be good for your first experience. I would be more than happy for you to come on a dog walk with a few different breeds (all three of the above) so you can check them out and have a chat about becoming a dog owner.

Re: To get a dog, or not...

by swan158 » Mon Feb 16, 2015 11:00 am

Definitely get a dog! I got my first dog last August (having never had one as a child) and it was the best decision I ever made.

I work full time so either use Bruce's doggy day care or Duncan's doggy day care to look after her in the day, and they will also look after her if you go on holiday. They stay in their homes over night (and play in the day care during the day) so it's not like the horror stories you hear of dogs being lonely/bored in kennels.

I took 2 weeks off work to properly crate train her/toilet train her in her first 2 weeks at home and it was hard work for those 2 weeks but it was definitely worth it as she was pretty much fully toilet trained after those 2 weeks.

Yes, puppies chew/destroy things but after the first couple of weeks they calm down a bit and they tend to only chew/destroy things if they're bored. Plus if you crate train it you can leave it alone while you pop out to the supermarket etc for short periods of time without worrying about it.

Good luck!

Re: To get a dog, or not...

by Joe's Mum » Tue Feb 10, 2015 10:02 am

Yes, puppies are incredibly hard work. Please do consider getting a dog from a rescue centre. My last dog came to me as a young adult from the Pine Ridge Dog sanctuary. Already spayed, no house training required, no chewing up of furniture or slippers. Best dog ever.
I would now never go down any other route, especially considering that by buying a puppy from a breeder you are encouraging them to breed more when there are already so many lovely dogs out there just begging for a loving home.

Re: To get a dog, or not...

by Mills1234 » Tue Feb 10, 2015 8:51 am

If you do go for a springer keep in mind they are a working breed to hunt and retrieve. They are incredibly loyal, kind and generally keen to please but will come with an inbuilt desire to pick up and carry...be that pants left on the floor or children's toys. lots of people think they need hours of exercise, but what they actually need is mental stimulation. 15 mins twice a day of training exercises will take far more out of them than walking on the common not interacting with the dog for 1hr morning and night. They are also a good portable medium size, though there is huge variation within the breed so check out parents well and maybe avoid a pedigree with too many FTCHs, so there's less built in Ferrari! On the other hand it would also give more brains in some ways. We've had springers and cockers and they've been wonderful additions to the family.

Previous posters have mentioned things to consider about visitors and visiting those less keen on dogs as an issue, but if you've crate trained then you can always pop them out of the way. Also if you've taught your dog not to jump up on people, not to climb on furniture, not to go upstairs and to sit/leave when told, it actually won't be capable of offending anyone. Unfortunately there are lots of dogs that aren't super well behaved and it puts people off, but it is no different to unruly children in a pub wrecking everyone else's lunch versus being a pleasure to be around.

Bruce's doggy daycare is great if you need a regular cover for a week day. For longer stints away I would recommend looking at Mullenscote kennels near Andover if you want to keep your dog on the straight and narrow, or you could get a house sitter to come to you. There are lots of holiday cover options, just depending on what you want whether kennels to help with training or a home from home set up, and for peak summer cover you'll just need to be organised.

Re: To get a dog, or not...

by sarahjlevans » Mon Feb 09, 2015 10:10 pm

Hi there, a lot of negative comments on this thread about owning a dog.

As someone who has a 8 month old border collie I would say yes! Get a dog, your children will love it.

Yes it's hard work in the 1st few weeks, but they're so worth it.

My top tips would be:
• research the breed & breeder thoroughly
• get your puppy as early as possible as they go through key socialisation
periods
• start crate training as soon as you get your puppy home, it won't easy in the 1st few few weeks but will get easier & will mean that you can leave your puppy alone without fear of chewing
• socialise your puppy with other dogs, I highly recommend te puppy classes at streatham hill vets
• get a dog walker & doggy daycare lined up. They are a god send when you need to go out for long periods

Yes dogs shouldn't be left alone for long periods, but if you exercise them we'll before hand there is no reason they can't be left for 4-6hours. Especially as they get older. Also as mentioned above we live in a very dog friendly area, most pubs & lots of cafés/ restaurants allow you to take them in
House training needn't take longer than 2 weeks of you're with the puppy all day.

Yes they require lots of attention but I think you'll find it a great addition to the family.

If you'd like any further info, please do pm me. X

Re: To get a dog, or not...

by atbattersea » Mon Feb 09, 2015 9:33 pm

I agree with AbbevilleMummy and pie#1, a dog is a big commitment. If you haven't had one before you need to get an idea of what it really involves. Perhaps volunteer to dogsit while friends/family are on holiday for a couple of weeks?

Also, some breeds really are more hassle than they are worth - so be very careful about what you choose.

Re: To get a dog, or not...

by Soriano » Mon Feb 09, 2015 7:56 pm

This is all excellent feedback. Lots to consider and lots more research for me to do but this is very helpful so thank you to everyone who took the time to respond so far.

Re: To get a dog, or not...

by AnotherMummy » Mon Feb 09, 2015 7:43 pm

You could maybe "borrow" a doggy to help make your mind whether or not to get a dog!
My friend has two dogs and a "borrower" that take the dogs some week ends and look after them for free when she is off on holiday. It's a win win!
Have a look at their website
Good luck!

Re: To get a dog, or not...

by AbbevilleMummy » Mon Feb 09, 2015 5:52 pm

We bought a Cavapoo in September when he was 10 weeks old and quite frankly the past 5 months have been hard work. So much so, that if I could turn back time I don't think I would do it again!

He is adorable, and we do love him, especially the kids, but....

- Puppies need constant attention
- They poo and pee all the time and all over the house
- Your house ends up smelling a lot like a smelly dog
- They chew everything
- They cannot be left alone for any period of time
- They can't be left outside shops/schools etc because they are too young
- Puppies need a lot of training in everything

We basically thought that it would be an easier way of extending our family than having a 3rd child, but now I'm not so sure! :shock:

Think long and hard and maybe see if you can get someone to lend you their dog for a week or a weekend so you can see what it's like first?

Re: To get a dog, or not...

by pie81 » Mon Feb 09, 2015 5:11 pm

Other things to take into account: I agree with posters above, it's not just the holidays it's the day to day care.

Some breeds can be left alone for several hours, others can't. So what do you do if you want to go shopping in town for several hours/ have a lengthy hair cut / go for a family outing somewhere that is not dog friendly / go to visit friends who don't want the dog to come too for whatever reason. You will either need to be willing to restrict yourself to outings that the dog can come along on, or find a dogsitter fairly often.

What happens if you want to go and stay and grandparents for the weekend (if this is something you do)? Will they accept the dog coming to stay?

What happens if friends come round to yours who are allergic or scared of dogs or who have a boisterous toddler who doesn't mix well with a dog? Will your dog have to/be happy to go in the garden during their visit?

All of this is not to say you shouldn't have a dog! But you have to want one enough to outweigh these restrictions, if that makes sense. (Bit like deciding to have a child I guess!!)

Re: To get a dog, or not...

by Annabel (admin) » Mon Feb 09, 2015 4:34 pm

Hi Everyone
This thread went a little off topic.

Totally understand that some users will want to discuss what type of dog to buy and some users will want to discuss dog fouling.

I've therefore split the threads (and deleted a few which were really off topic) and so if we can discuss the "what dog should I get?" here and in this thread...

http://www.nappyvalleynet.com/mums/view ... 46&t=61577

concerns about dog fouling.

Thanks for all your posts everyone!

Re: To get a dog, or not...

by ramdays » Mon Feb 09, 2015 2:13 pm

Hi Soriano

Ignore the anti-dog brigade. Of course some people don't like dogs, but that shouldn't stop you getting a dog if you wish to. Many people adore dogs and will approach you in the street if you have a like-able, well mannered dog. Our King Charles Spaniel gets plenty of affection from locals when out on Wandsworth Common or Northcote Road. You'll find yourself talking to strangers a lot more!

Experience and understanding will come with owning a dog. There are plenty of people out there who can help you along the way

When you've done what you think is enough research into breeds and determined which would suit you and your family / situation best, take the time to talk to owners of that breed and source a dog from a responsible breeder. We've evolved our social life around restaurants that allow dogs so you may want to factor that into your breed/size decision to avoid leaving the dog at home. Invest the time to make the right decision, and when s/he comes home treat the dog like a member of the family and you'll have a loving companion that will be a rewarding experience.

All the best
Saquib

Re: To get a dog, or not...

by atbattersea » Mon Feb 09, 2015 1:58 pm

Soriano wrote:Wow- I don't even have the dog yet and already I'm getting told off...
You should think about that - most people don't even like dogs, and they almost certainly won't like your dog.

I also think you haven't really thought it through, nor have the experience to understand what owning a dog means. Dogs are social animals, they believe they are part of your family. Going away and leaving them for weeks at a time can drive them a bit crazy.

Re: To get a dog, or not...

by Soriano » Mon Feb 09, 2015 1:14 pm

Wow- I don't even have the dog yet and already I'm getting told off...

Re: To get a dog, or not...

by atbattersea » Mon Feb 09, 2015 12:06 pm

Actually, slight revision, get any dog you like, but make sure you get some of these too:

http://www.dog-nappy.co.uk/

Very appropriate for Nappy Valley.

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