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Re: Crossrail 2 to come via Balham?

by a.dad » Tue Dec 15, 2015 4:37 pm

Here's a video on Crossrail 2 & Tooting v Balham
https://youtu.be/ixLJr69UaDo
takes 5 mins
whichever way you lean make sure you have your say via the TfL consultation:
https://consultations.tfl.gov.uk/crossr ... 515468221/
(closes 8th Jan)

Re: Crossrail 2 to come via Balham?

by Jen66 » Tue Dec 15, 2015 1:30 pm

House prices are not a factor for me. They're already sky high.

it's the traffic congestion, the noise and disruption that makes me anxious.

We've seen some great local, independent businesses popping up in Balham in the past few years that have given the town real character. I think Crossrail could well be the death knell for them.

Naturally, I can see the benefits Crossrail 2 will bring to people living further out but, as far as I can see, for the people of Balham there's no real advantage.

So I'll be able to get to Kings Road in 15 minutes instead of 25.

Re: Crossrail 2 to come via Balham?

by actuallyadad » Mon Dec 14, 2015 6:02 pm

:lol: [too busy laughing at the ridiculousness of that to reply] :lol:

Re: Crossrail 2 to come via Balham?

by Broken Dad » Mon Dec 14, 2015 5:47 pm

Your comments are not true and mere opinion. You are not the oracle on this even though you think that you are.

1. there is a LOT of statistical evidence that says that in the vicinity of the station houses lose value dramatically and those that gain will be at the end of the line outside of London.

2. London does not need millions more people coming in and out of it flooding our already strained network. Balham will be swamped by people coming in from out of town and changing to the northern line here. There is a lot on this too. let them go work elsewhere. otherwise we are not easing congestion but creating it. You cannot simply just always add more and more layers of people in a City. Enough is enough. Let somewhere else have the investment and pollution and so forth.

NOT EVERYONE AGREES WITH YOU AND THERE IS A LOT OF STATISTICAL EVIDENCE SHOWING THAT YOU ARE JUST WRONG.

IN ADDITION NOT EVERYONE WHO WILL BE HURT IS WEALTHY AND BEING WEALTHY DOES NOT MEAN THAT YOUR RIGHTS SHOULD BE OVERRIDDEN.

I guess that you do not liver here BTW. You do not seem to give two hoots about Balham. if so why bother posting at all.

Re: Crossrail 2 to come via Balham?

by actuallyadad » Mon Dec 14, 2015 5:28 pm

I've said it before...

Better transport infrastructure is BETTER for house prices not worse! It just IS. Look at the current cross rail locations, it's been great for them.

We just DO need more transport infrastructure. It's nonsense to say otherwise. London's population is set to increase from 8.6m to 11m by 2050 (says Boris). We can't rely on the Victorian rail network forever.

We can't plan cities around a few relatively wealthy people's concerns about house prices (or Waitrose). It's not what will (or should) define London's future.

Re: Crossrail 2 to come via Balham?

by Broken Dad » Mon Dec 14, 2015 5:04 pm

charmed I am sure. Why not discuss it sensibly rather than chuck silly comments about. Try to be nice.

1. There is nothing wrong with being a nimby at all. Nimby is a pejorative term but also a dumb and meaningless one. Why should I not be against something which I think will be a massive negative to my life? I bet that you would not wish to 'take one for the team' on your house price now would you? Many in Balham will during the 10 years of the build. Did you chose your house regardless of its proximity to a rubbish dump/main road/likelihood of plummeting value etc? No you did not. So what does that make you?
2. No one in their right mind would want these works near them and they will continue for nearly ten years thus being a life changing inconvenience;
3. London does not need this. In all likelihood it will be entirely negative for Balham flooding it with more commuters. it will make commenting terrible;
4. House prices near this in Balham will be negatively effected;
5. The build will create a terrible place to live for many in Balham and will kill businesses and jobs.

Unless you have something sensible to say then why say it?

Re: Crossrail 2 to come via Balham?

by actuallyadad » Mon Dec 14, 2015 4:49 pm

PS - You are concerned that we will lose Waitrose? That is hilarious! Imagine only having Sainsburys nearby...

Re: Crossrail 2 to come via Balham?

by actuallyadad » Mon Dec 14, 2015 4:46 pm

Oh no more terrible NIMBY attitudes from the locals! How depressing.

We need transport infrastructure for the future! These same kids of ours which play on the common today also need transport for the future.

It's only a tiny part of one of the many commons which will be lost. A bit of construction traffic is not a big deal.

No idea why people keep banging on about the regeneration of Tooting. It already has TWO tube stations. So if anything is holding back the regeneration of Tooting, it is not the lack of transport!

Re: Crossrail 2 to come via Balham?

by Broken Dad » Mon Dec 14, 2015 10:50 am

it seems madness for Balham to sacrifice itself and be destroyed for many years just in order to help commuters from elsewhere. Our commute will be swamped even more by those other commuters changing here in order to get on the Northern Line, we lose Waitrose and probably get horrendous and deeply disruptive works for nigh on 10 yrs.

Re: Crossrail 2 to come via Balham?

by Annabel (admin) » Fri Dec 04, 2015 6:14 pm

Hello all I've promised to post a picture of the latest protest on the Common against proposed Crossrail2 route.

It's also been covered in the Guardian...
The fight to save Wandsworth Common is back.

It comes after the proposed switch of the Crossrail 2 route from Tooting Broadway to Balham brought back the threat of a shaft on the green space.
http://www.wandsworthguardian.co.uk/new ... eats_back/
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Re: Crossrail 2 to come via Balham?

by a.dad » Thu Nov 12, 2015 6:01 pm

Hi
We are locals campaigning against TfL siting an access shaft at Wandsworth Common.

The new crossrail proposal will take out a large chunk of the common that a lot of us enjoy. Our local schools use the common for their sports, our kids walk along it on their way to school and it's generally a wonderful place that needs to be cherished and protected! The proposed construction will also cause havoc on the roads around the site - Bolingbroke Grove, any road running off it & Northcote Road as well most likely. Problems that will last for the duration of the 5 to 6 year build period.

We are pro-Crossrail in Tooting - we think the area and St George's in particular deserves good transport connections. But we do not want to lose space on our beautiful common - once it is gone we will not get it back again! So we are trying to safeguard it for our kids and the future.

For more info and to see how you can object to the Wandsworth Common TfL proposals please join us on Facebook at:https://www.facebook.com/SaveWandsworth ... rossrail2/
and on Twitter at: @savewandscommon
It would be great if you could follow us/retweet/like us etc and generally help to raise our profile by mentioning to your friends! It is surprising how little is known about these proposals by the local community despite the big impact they may have. Please pass on the message.

A very big thanks for all your help!!
SaveWandsworthCommonAgain

Re: Crossrail 2 to come via Balham?

by Goldhawk » Sat Nov 07, 2015 5:53 pm

http://sadiqkhan.nationbuilder.com/cros ... or_tooting

More info here - reply from TFL to Sadiq Khan's questions

Suggests Balham would cost £500M vs £1 Billion for Tooting and take 2 further years to build

Re: Crossrail 2 to come via Balham?

by Beketaten » Tue Nov 03, 2015 4:32 pm

Because Earlsfield already has a train station, and is linked to Clapham Jct. I think Tooting is still the best location, if the geological difficulties can be overcome, because it is adding a new link to the area.

Re: Crossrail 2 to come via Balham?

by WCN » Tue Nov 03, 2015 4:08 pm

Looking at the map, I completely agree with pie81 - going via Balham or Tooting is a huge detour and must surely only add to the cost. Why not Earlsfield? That seems a much more direct route.

Re: Crossrail 2 to come via Balham?

by KatherineHepburn » Mon Nov 02, 2015 1:12 pm

I wonder how the shaft at the Springfield hospital site will affect the proposed redevelopment planned?

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