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Re: Full house renovation - gut job!!!

by actuallyadad » Fri Feb 05, 2016 3:09 pm

oh god I would say just don't do it. I'd never do it again. Huge amounts of stress. Unbelievable amounts of money. Builders are basically all terrible and annoying whatever their websites say (sorry but true). Neighbours hate us (and we hate them back). Seriously, next time I'd just buy one fully converted! And now the market is a bit soft you're not guaranteed to make money any more.

Re: Full house renovation - gut job!!!

by sw11_ » Fri Feb 05, 2016 11:43 am

Meant to say NO reason why you have to fall out!

These projects are big and daunting but so worth it in the end x

Re: Full house renovation - gut job!!!

by sw11_ » Fri Feb 05, 2016 11:40 am

We've done this too. Used Minale and Mann. Not reason why you have to fall out with the neighbours! Happy to discuss x

Re: Full house renovation - gut job!!!

by btcmum » Thu Feb 04, 2016 10:12 pm

Thank you for all your responses.

FirsttimerSW11... have sent you a pm! x

Re: Full house renovation - gut job!!!

by firsttimerSW11 » Mon Feb 01, 2016 2:11 pm

We have just done something similar (our third renovation) - took a wreck literally back to brick -and couldn't be happier with the result. I literally walk around my house admiring it! Pm me if you want further details, happy to talk you through the pros and cons of both options mentioned by another poster, having done both.

Re: Full house renovation - gut job!!!

by MGC » Mon Feb 01, 2016 10:38 am

We used a great builder who held our hands through the entire process. They were called Dermarta Limited.

www.dermarta.co.uk

Dermot the owner was brilliant. I couldn't recommend them more highly.

Good luck with it and it's definitely worth doing.

Re: Full house renovation - gut job!!!

by OLBC Group » Mon Feb 01, 2016 9:59 am

There are two typical routes: design and build or architect & contractor. Both have advantages and disadvantages, and both can work well or not depending on the individuals involved. There is no right answer.

Those who have suffered at the hands of a D&B company usually complain that the building works (basements in particular) were subcontracted to others without them realising, and the company they signed up with were really just a design and management company. This meant there was no clear line of responsibility, which can easily result in problems down the line, especially with a big project like yours. There are relatively few genuine design and build companies who can take on design, planning consents, all aspects of construction including basements (these require a very high level of insurance) and full project management.

If you can find a genuine, full-service design and build company and you feel you can trust them, this should be a safe route to procurement.

Some find greater comfort in using an architect to prepare plans and gain consent, then going out to building contractors to price the work. This does delay the point at which you have to commit to a building company, and if you know an architect you can trust this could also be a good route to procurement. The typical set backs with this route are usually discovering too late that the proposed plans are way outside the budget. An experienced D&B firm know what the cost of a basement, loft extension, kitchen extension and full refurb are, give or take the 10-15% to allow for your choice of fit out items. Less experienced architects can also come up with designs that look strong on paper but are disproportionately expensive to build. A D&B firm have the knowledge of constructing detailed engineering plans and can “cost-engineer” a project to your budget from the outset. Some people find comfort in an architect managing the building company for them, and this can work well. However there is no guarantee you will end up with a better, cheaper or quicker result, as there are many pitfalls in having more professional entities with opposing agendas.

If you are not particularly budget conscious, or want something particularly unusual in architectural terms, a well-known architect could be the right choice for you. If you want to extend your home within a set budget and would prefer a single point of responsibility, a genuine D&B company may be best for you.

Be open minded about all the options and speak to a range of professionals. It is always a leap of faith so ask lots of questions and go with your instinct on who you can trust with your home.

Good luck!

Re: Full house renovation - gut job!!!

by LP73 » Mon Jan 25, 2016 11:24 pm

Happy to share our views on the full house renovation that we did.

We did a basement and both sets of neighbours talk to us - there were no issues there at all. Communication is the key and getting a good basement company to do the work quickly.

We used Advantage Basements for the basement shell, they were fantastic and only took ten weeks to do our basement. Also the party wall surveyor will suggest working times to your neighbours which keeps everyone happy.

Re: Full house renovation - gut job!!!

by Chocomum » Mon Jan 25, 2016 10:45 pm

All that sounds fab. One word of warning though, if you want your neighbours to talk to you once you move in, don't do the basement. It has a massive impact on the quality of life of those living next to you and those on your street.

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Re: Full house renovation - gut job!!!

by Ensoul.co.uk » Mon Jan 25, 2016 1:17 pm

Hi, we have done lots of these in Wandsworth and Clapham, happy to chat, you can contact me on mike@ensoul.co.uk

Look forward to helping, best regards, Mike

Full house renovation - gut job!!!

by btcmum » Fri Jan 22, 2016 3:08 pm

I would be very interested to hear from anyone who has had experience of totally refurbishing a house in the area.

We are considering 'creating' our next family home by purchasing a standard Victorian terrace (which basically hasn't been touched since 1950!!), stripping it back and then doing the side return, attic, basement, garden, etc. I am aware that this is a well trodden path in this neck of the woods but also a long and costly one, so would love to hear from anyone (recommendations, pitfalls...) who has done something similar.

Thanks!

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