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Re: Man stabbed in buttocks in unprovoked Wandsworth knife attack

by Motherslittlehelper » Tue May 02, 2017 9:18 am

This crime in my view is all linked to the appalling police we have now. Wandsworth police are in my view terrible. Car and burglary get reported and nothing gets done, the visibility of police around Wandsworth is minimal, the focus on stop and search for knives and other weapons should be highly visible to make these people think they might get caught. Wandsworth police also do not care about stopping the myriad of people driving whilst on their mobiles (just walk up Bellevue road in the daytime when there is traffic and could the number of people using their phones). Oh, but I must congratulate Wandsworth police on their hiding in the bushes of Wandsworth common to stop and try and fine cyclists - I used to respect the police, in Wandsworth I have none now unfortunately. Is there any leadership?

Re: Man stabbed in buttocks in unprovoked Wandsworth knife attack

by papinian » Wed Apr 26, 2017 2:52 pm

Denwand wrote:...and tragically this happens

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/wa ... 23796.html
Denwand. Tooting Bec is pretty bad also for street crime (e.g. the Barringer Square motor bike theft/mugging), but I don't think there have been anything like the number of stabbing incidents in the past year as in Earlsfield. The incident on Drakefield Road which you mentioned wasn't on the street so is a bit different.

The fact that you've just linked to a fatal stabbing only last night outside Wandsworth Prep School, which I would call probably Wandsworth / Earlsfield borders shows that there is a real issue. I don't want to single out Earlsfield. My original post noted that the local police presence has been massively reduced as the government steal London's taxes and divert them elsewhere. We all enjoyed a bit of breather from crime after the scum from the 2011 riots were locked up but it's getting bad again, particularly with the politically correct ending of stop-and-search - which ending was driven by Theresa May.

Re: Man stabbed in buttocks in unprovoked Wandsworth knife attack

by liverbird in london » Wed Apr 26, 2017 9:39 am

Papainian, I assure you I know Garratt Lane very well - no idea why I wrote Garratt Road ;) and I shop at the large Sainsbury's on Garratt Lane (opposite Southside shopping centre), outside which the attack you referred to occurred. My error does not change the fact that that dreadful attack occurred in Wandsworth not Earlsfield.

Re: Man stabbed in buttocks in unprovoked Wandsworth knife attack

by Denwand » Wed Apr 26, 2017 9:11 am

...and tragically this happens

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/wa ... 23796.html

Re: Man stabbed in buttocks in unprovoked Wandsworth knife attack

by Denwand » Wed Apr 26, 2017 8:39 am

Well you have done it again papinian!

In your own neignbourhood of Tooting Bec prices have fallen over the last 12 months by an almost identical amount according to the Zoopla source you quoted:

http://www.zoopla.co.uk/house-prices/tooting/

Even more recently than the "Earlsfield" incident (last Sunday 23rd April) this happen on your own doorstep in Tooting Bec papinian...

http://www.wandsworthguardian.co.uk/new ... n_Tooting/

Given your statement
papinian wrote: You should be asking why there are so many random/public serious stabbings in Earlsfield in such a short space of time. If I lived in the area I would be on the phone to my local councillors to urge them to try to reduce the level of street violence. Certainly, anyone with children considering moving to the area should give serious thought to their children's safety.
I hope you are taking your own advice and asking "why there are so many random/public serious stabbings (and murders by stabbing to boot)) in Tooting Bec" and getting on that phone as Tooting Bec is obviously much worse with regards to street violence.!

This especially urgent following the Tooting Bec murder in Drakefield Road this January... No wonder (by your own impeccable logic) house prices in Tooting Bec are taking a nosedive because your neighbours are in a permanent state of fear!

Re: Man stabbed in buttocks in unprovoked Wandsworth knife attack

by lemonzest » Wed Apr 26, 2017 6:40 am

It's Garratt Lane, not Garrett Lane, Papinian.

Re: Man stabbed in buttocks in unprovoked Wandsworth knife attack

by papinian » Wed Apr 26, 2017 12:33 am

liverbird in london wrote:Furthermore, the attack outside the large Sainsbury's on Garrett Road that you refer to below is most definitely in Wandsworth not Earlsfield.
It's Garrett Lane, not Garrett Road. The headline in the Wandsworth Guardian is
Teenage boy in critical condition after being stabbed outside Sainsbury's in Garratt Lane, Earlsfield
http://www.wandsworthguardian.co.uk/new ... andsworth/

I have more faith in our local newspaper's view of which locations are in which area than I do in a poster who doesn't know the correct name for Earlsfield's main thoroughfare.

Re: Man stabbed in buttocks in unprovoked Wandsworth knife attack

by liverbird in london » Tue Apr 25, 2017 11:28 pm

I wasn't comparing Earlsfield with Balham / Wimbledon, I was using them as examples of two different locations that have seen house prices fall over the past 12 months and stating that such fluctuation has nothing to do with crime statistics, which is what you were inferring in your original comment.

Furthermore, the attack outside the large Sainsbury's on Garrett Road that you refer to below is most definitely in Wandsworth not Earlsfield.

Re: Man stabbed in buttocks in unprovoked Wandsworth knife attack

by papinian » Tue Apr 25, 2017 5:10 pm

liverbird in london wrote:There is no correlation between a drop in house prices and a sudden surge in crime in Earlsfield. According to Papinian's Zoopla source - house prices have fallen even more sharply in Balham (-2.43%) and in Wimbledon (-2.88%). It would be farcical to think these decreases are because such areas have become "crime hotspots" in the past 12 months.

That's not to say that violent crimes like those highlighted aren't concerning, but it is too simplistic, and frankly incorrect, to tie them into falling property prices.
You're not comparing like with like in comparing Earlsfield with more affluent and expensive areas such as Balham and Wimbledon.

Obviously, the tragic events of the past few weeks haven't impacted on house prices yet. However, they come after a a spate of stabbings in Earlsfield during last year, including one last September outside Sainsburys
http://www.thisislocallondon.co.uk/news ... andsworth/

I'm not going to comment on demographic groups involved as Annabel has made it clear that talking about these issues is verboten on this site, but if you read the articles in the Wandsworth Guardian you can see for yourself. Melanie Phillips has an excellent article in today's Times about the need to end the political correctness which is killing London's young people and get this under control now:
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/if-b ... -krwkcsx9h

Re: Man stabbed in buttocks in unprovoked Wandsworth knife attack

by TCEarlsfield » Tue Apr 25, 2017 4:54 pm

I think the key word in your previous post is random. That's what these three attacks appear to be.

Of course I am worried about violent crime on our streets, but I have never felt anything less than safe in Earlsfield, and I have certainly never had cause to be worried for my children's safety.

Re: Man stabbed in buttocks in unprovoked Wandsworth knife attack

by liverbird in london » Tue Apr 25, 2017 4:47 pm

There is no correlation between a drop in house prices and a sudden surge in crime in Earlsfield. According to Papinian's Zoopla source - house prices have fallen even more sharply in Balham (-2.43%) and in Wimbledon (-2.88%). It would be farcical to think these decreases are because such areas have become "crime hotspots" in the past 12 months.

That's not to say that violent crimes like those highlighted aren't concerning, but it is too simplistic, and frankly incorrect, to tie them into falling property prices.

Re: Man stabbed in buttocks in unprovoked Wandsworth knife attack

by papinian » Tue Apr 25, 2017 4:42 pm

TCEarlsfield wrote:I think you are being misleading, and a 1% drop in house prices in 12 months is not an indication that people are realising it is not a safe place to raise children.
I think you have having the wrong conversation. You should be asking why there are so many random/public serious stabbings in Earlsfield in such a short space of time. If I lived in the area I would be on the phone to my local councillors to urge them to try to reduce the level of street violence. Certainly, anyone with children considering moving to the area should give serious thought to their children's safety.

Re: Man stabbed in buttocks in unprovoked Wandsworth knife attack

by TCEarlsfield » Tue Apr 25, 2017 3:56 pm

I think you are being misleading, and a 1% drop in house prices in 12 months is not an indication that people are realising it is not a safe place to raise children.

Re: Man stabbed in buttocks in unprovoked Wandsworth knife attack

by papinian » Tue Apr 25, 2017 2:28 pm

TCEarlsfield wrote:Shows a rise over 3 months or 5 years. Just proves what they say about stats I guess!
You asked for evidence of falling house prices in Earlsfield and I provided evidence of a fall over the past 12 months.

3 months change: Most people are familiar with the concept of seasonal variation in house prices. It's meaningless to look at the past three months data because (i) it reflects seasonality as much as underlying trend and (ii) a sample size of just 3 months' worth of sales is too small to be representative.

5 years change: Is there anywhere in the whole of the south of England that hasn't show a house price increase over 5 years?

Re: Man stabbed in buttocks in unprovoked Wandsworth knife attack

by TCEarlsfield » Tue Apr 25, 2017 1:31 pm

Shows a rise over 3 months or 5 years. And a larger decrease in Battersea prices. Just proves what they say about stats I guess!

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