Post a reply: Mother attacked for Rolex as her children run screaming for help

Post as a Guest

This question is a means of preventing automated form submissions by spambots.
BBCode is OFF
Smilies are OFF
Topic review

Expand view Topic review: Mother attacked for Rolex as her children run screaming for help

Re: Mother attacked for Rolex as her children run screaming for help

by JGB » Tue Aug 28, 2018 10:38 am

the parsley song wrote: ↑Wed Jul 25, 2018 2:43 pmWhy are some people on here assuming that poverty as the reason this happened and thereby giving them some sense of justification? I don't see it like that at all. Nobody in the UK is that poor! 
I totally agree - that there is no justification for this level of violence, ever. It goes against everything that makes us human.  But I must disagree with you about levels of poverty in the UK. I have spent a few months this year in Neath and Sandfields in South Wales, and people there are that poor -at levels we would not deem possible in such a developed and wealthy country. The people I have met live in beleaguered communities and there is very little for them to hope for, never mind afford. There is a common misconception around poverty in this country. I invite any member of the government to go and see for themselves what broken communities are going through up and down the country and why cuts to services, centres, retraining and industry have created a social vacuum.

Re: Mother attacked for Rolex as her children run screaming for help

by JGB » Tue Aug 28, 2018 10:26 am

Lillypad wrote: ↑Mon Jul 23, 2018 2:02 pmShocking and the police told me that they are powerless to stop this crime as their numbers are constantly reducing/not many are allowed to chase then when they get away on scooters.

Sadiq Khan cant possible be voted back in with this crime wave, nothing is improving - what is he doing ?? 

I am not sure what camera it is, but the Amazon Blink camera range are meant to be good, they have indoor and outdoor cameras
While I fully agree that this is really shocking, I'm afraid that blaming Sadiq Khan seems rather naively simple. This is a governmental issue linked to police numbers, methods of tackling this kind of crime, including restrictions and laws on pursuing muggers on mopeds, and then really, at root source, the reasons for such types of crime. With all the will in the world the Mayor cannot either be held responsible, or wave a magic wand to suddenly stop it. 
 

Re: Mother attacked for Rolex as her children run screaming for help

by parsleysong » Sun Aug 26, 2018 3:27 pm

I've sat in the Abbeville pub (next to where this took place in case you don't know the area) and heard young black men referring to women as "bitches" in a categorical way. Fact. The misogyny of young black men is a well known problem that even the Guardian must have reported. Stop making excuses for these scums and insulting people who don't see their behaviour as excusable. Their crime was racist and class-ist against the victims.

Re: Mother attacked for Rolex as her children run screaming for help

by Star » Sun Aug 26, 2018 1:50 pm

I'm sorry but what is "namby pamby" about what I posted? do you suggest I get my news from Breibart???
I wasn't excusing any crime I just abhor the complacency of people here ( oh look at my cheap council tax, I'm so smug I can afford a rolex) who don't hold the politicians to account for their policies towards those in wider society. It's care less and undone so much good work that has been done for the working class black community over the decades

I have looked at some of the posts more closely in this thread and there seems to be a lot of casual racism in this so called community. I'm pretty sure none of you know any black people let alone what life is like in an estate. Shame on you.

Re: Mother attacked for Rolex as her children run screaming for help

by rooting4tooting » Fri Aug 24, 2018 11:32 am

Lets not forget that many of the robberies are as part of serious organised crime.
The school pick up drop off version MO has a spotter, usually the organiser/boss looking for targets and will contact the moped gangs with precise details. The items are stolen, the thieves are paid and the items fenced through networks
All expensive items of jewellery or bags etc are serial numbered and usually registered meaning they have to be fenced abroad where fewer questions are asked.
They can't be legally sold here in any way because as soon as a service or battery replacement is carried out the item should come up as stolen if the robbed individuals and insurance companies are updating the manufacturer databases.

And just like UK living Indian women back in the 1980s learned... don't wear the real stuff in the street...

Re: Mother attacked for Rolex as her children run screaming for help

by parsleysong » Thu Aug 23, 2018 8:25 pm

Too many people here covering up and making excuses for the scums who attacked that woman: "poverty", not enough youth clubs, women wearing expensive jewellery... The suspects in the cctv dont look so poor they had no choice and they are too old for youth clubs. Genuinely poor people don't typically go out and commit aggravated robbery. We definitely need to keep our wits about us but we are not in the 80s Bronx so let's stop being all Guardian namby pamby and making excuse for these disgusting men.

Re: Mother attacked for Rolex as her children run screaming for help

by Star » Wed Aug 22, 2018 5:23 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... risk-gangs

Re: Mother attacked for Rolex as her children run screaming for help

by Star » Wed Aug 22, 2018 4:41 pm

I learned from a young age when I was a 13 year old teenager walking with my mum uncharacteristically wearing Cartier jewellery set in broad daylight in the mean streets of ...Marylebone we were followed relentlessly by a thieving couple

seen it many times, particularly rich Arab women


lesson learned there and then. end of story

Re: Mother attacked for Rolex as her children run screaming for help

by Star » Mon Aug 20, 2018 12:38 pm

Which is why we need more funding for youths. Not closing youth clubs and mentoring services. I know of many that shut down since 2010 in North Kensington. Ironically Cameron etc lived there a few minutes walk from Grenfell tower.
I don't see this situation improving unless there is radical change in the mindset of the well off and better off. ah well, good luck, definitely keep your wits about you, definitely think twice about wearing rolexes and stay safe .

Re: Mother attacked for Rolex as her children run screaming for help

by sloaney donkey » Thu Aug 16, 2018 11:11 pm

I see youths on bikes waiting around on street corners off nightingale lane after about 10pm.

Hoodies with resentful and taut faces with little beady magpie eyes. Who scowl at you when you wish them a good night.

Waiting for drunken people to rob, possibly. Or just cycling at night without a helmet or lights for thrills. One or the other.

Have your wits about you.

Place is crawling with thieves desperate for their next fix.

Re: Mother attacked for Rolex as her children run screaming for help

by sloaney donkey » Thu Aug 16, 2018 11:07 pm

:D
the parsley song wrote: ↑Tue Jul 24, 2018 3:09 pm Bathtub is deffo a troll - 2 posts! A brainless troll. But trolling and lack of a brain tend to go together in my experience.

Hey bathtub, how about you spend your time working hard and I hope whatever you decide to spend your well-earned money on isn't stolen by these scumbags. 
 

Re: Mother attacked for Rolex as her children run screaming for help

by parsleysong » Wed Jul 25, 2018 3:01 pm

Not at all - there is a massive attitude issue out there and I don't mind raising it. Bathtub I suppose you'd rather explain away their disgusting disregard of life as them being so poor and oppressed that they had no other choice. Boo hoo, I'm about to burst into tears worrying about them. 

Re: Mother attacked for Rolex as her children run screaming for help

by daisydaisy » Wed Jul 25, 2018 2:54 pm

Bathtub wrote: ↑Wed Jul 25, 2018 2:49 pm Wow. Racist much?

the parsley song wrote: ↑Wed Jul 25, 2018 2:43 pm Why are some people on here assuming that poverty as the reason this happened and thereby giving them some sense of justification? I don't see it like that at all. Nobody in the UK is that poor! These well-builtand healthy looking guys are clearly not starving and so desperate that they needed to attack for a 10k watch to feed and shelter themselves. No way, they are just scum who have no morals and walk around with a massive sense of superiority over and contempt for anyone a different race and sex to them and refer to women as their "bitches" Thanks . 

How?!
and please stop defending and justifying the criminals

Re: Mother attacked for Rolex as her children run screaming for help

by Bathtub » Wed Jul 25, 2018 2:49 pm

Wow. Racist much?

the parsley song wrote: ↑Wed Jul 25, 2018 2:43 pm Why are some people on here assuming that poverty as the reason this happened and thereby giving them some sense of justification? I don't see it like that at all. Nobody in the UK is that poor! These well-built and healthy looking guys are clearly not starving and so desperate that they needed to attack for a 10k watch to feed and shelter themselves. No way, they are just scum who have no morals and walk around with a massive sense of superiority over and contempt for anyone a different race and sex to them and refer to women as their "bitches". 

Top