by atbattersea » Tue Feb 05, 2019 2:36 pm
It seems that everyone is pretty much in agreement here, just lump it! I think that is really the only reasonable response. If you think about it, just over half the people who voted in the referendum wanted to leave - are you really going to ask everyone you meet what they voted for, and then refuse to talk to them?
Personally, I'm in a slightly worse position than you - my parents voted to leave. I really resented them doing that, especially when I really made the effort to respond to all their prejudices and explained to them the effect it would have on their grandchildren. But they couldn't listen to reason, and they really didn't have any real logical reasons that they wanted to leave - they thought that the UK should never have joined the EEC and should instead have been involved in some kind of anglophone union of NZ/Australia/Canada/USA. I can't tell you how many times I tried to point out to them that that was never going to work.
As it stands now, they are really suffering with some of the uncertainty that has flowed from the referendum, but just cannot bring themselves to admit it. Every time they have a gripe about various issues they are facing I just tell them "You voted for it!". They are also in complete denial as to the effect leaving the EU will have on manufacturing in the UK - I think even Jacob Rees Mogg concedes that point.
The genuinely funny thing about it was that few years ago my dad was asking my advice about buying property in Bulgaria (I put him off it at the time, because I'm not so certain they really have a stable property law yet) - and of course any chance he had of doing that and living out there has been greatly reduced by his vote in the referendum.
As to what we are doing to mitigate it. Fortunately, my son and most of his cousins have, or can get, ongoing EU citizenship via dual nationality. In fact, some of them, who have only ever lived outside the UK, and have other EU passports, will still qualify for UK citizenship too. Unfortunately, after some extensive research, it seems that I do not have the same rights, but my partner does. So, effectively, due to family re-unification rules within the EU, wherever my son or partner go, so too can I.
As to the cousins on the other side of the family, they are probably stuck here too.
I also reflect on the fact that, whatever my parents had voted, the country would still have voted leave - the referendum wasn't lost by two votes. I also don't think there is a chance of a second referendum, because the politicians are just not behind it. But I completely dismiss the scaremongering of Brextremists, that a second referendum would be a betrayal, upset our constitution or cause civil unrest. We seem to have changes of government about every five years without any real ill-effects, and other countries have had referenda in quick succession, where the latter has overturned the result in the former - without any ongoing issues.
It seems that everyone is pretty much in agreement here, just lump it! I think that is really the only reasonable response. If you think about it, just over half the people who voted in the referendum wanted to leave - are you really going to ask everyone you meet what they voted for, and then refuse to talk to them?
Personally, I'm in a slightly worse position than you - my parents voted to leave. I really resented them doing that, especially when I really made the effort to respond to all their prejudices and explained to them the effect it would have on their grandchildren. But they couldn't listen to reason, and they really didn't have any real logical reasons that they wanted to leave - they thought that the UK should never have joined the EEC and should instead have been involved in some kind of anglophone union of NZ/Australia/Canada/USA. I can't tell you how many times I tried to point out to them that that was never going to work.
As it stands now, they are really suffering with some of the uncertainty that has flowed from the referendum, but just cannot bring themselves to admit it. Every time they have a gripe about various issues they are facing I just tell them "You voted for it!". They are also in complete denial as to the effect leaving the EU will have on manufacturing in the UK - I think even Jacob Rees Mogg concedes that point.
The genuinely funny thing about it was that few years ago my dad was asking my advice about buying property in Bulgaria (I put him off it at the time, because I'm not so certain they really have a stable property law yet) - and of course any chance he had of doing that and living out there has been greatly reduced by his vote in the referendum.
As to what we are doing to mitigate it. Fortunately, my son and most of his cousins have, or can get, ongoing EU citizenship via dual nationality. In fact, some of them, who have only ever lived outside the UK, and have other EU passports, will still qualify for UK citizenship too. Unfortunately, after some extensive research, it seems that I do not have the same rights, but my partner does. So, effectively, due to family re-unification rules within the EU, wherever my son or partner go, so too can I.
As to the cousins on the other side of the family, they are probably stuck here too.
I also reflect on the fact that, whatever my parents had voted, the country would still have voted leave - the referendum wasn't lost by two votes. I also don't think there is a chance of a second referendum, because the politicians are just not behind it. But I completely dismiss the scaremongering of Brextremists, that a second referendum would be a betrayal, upset our constitution or cause civil unrest. We seem to have changes of government about every five years without any real ill-effects, and other countries have had referenda in quick succession, where the latter has overturned the result in the former - without any ongoing issues.