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Re: daughter not invited to party

by Needcoffeenow » Mon Sep 20, 2021 8:04 am

I’d suggest as a general strategy going forward that you try to make sure she makes good friends who go to different schools. Scouts/guides and sports clubs start young and were really good for our kids. They met children local to them but from different schools and this led to playdates and parties outside their usual school circle.

Re: daughter not invited to party

by parentpractice » Wed Sep 15, 2021 6:21 pm

Hello Belinda 15/158

Full disclosure  -it's Elaine here from The Parent Practice and firstly apologies for being late to this post, but I really wanted to reach out to you, as it’s such a thorny topic  - girls and friendships  and what I can say is you are so not alone. This is more common than you realise and the harsh reality is it will happen again, not being invited to the sleepover or the gathering. Sadly Queen Bees, who often garner their popularity through being powerful, are in every school across the land.
You don’t say in your original post how your daughter feels, but I am assuming she is upset and you of course just want to protect her. It’s a horrible feeling of helplessness when not being invited to a party is often one of the first signs they we can’t control the world for our growing children. It’s easy to resort to thinking “shall I call that horrible girl’s mother and just let her know how upsetting it is for my daughter to have been excluded from the birthday party” but I don’t recommend that, as it will often be met with defensiveness and rational explanations, that won’t make it feel any better. And no one wants to be an after thought.

I think a more nuanced approach is needed, which empowers your daughter to deal with this and the best thing you can do is listen and validate to how she feels without judgement - wait –don’t jump in with advice or direction. Once she feels heard, she’ll be able to problem solve and it sounds as if you have found the most perfect solution! A sleep over party, with friends who respect and like her. Have fun!

Re: daughter not invited to party

by Starr » Mon Sep 13, 2021 3:14 pm

I hate to hear about this sort of thing.
My daughter has just started senior school and at age 8 she would have felt quite sad in that situation.
Very thoughtless of the parent. I've always invited all or just a few.
Hope she has a lovely time with her sleepover and she was right to be upset - but try not to dwell on it.

Re: daughter not invited to party

by belinda15 » Mon Sep 13, 2021 1:36 pm

thanks so much for all of your replies and for sharing your tricky situations. I have taken on board all of your suggestions and asked my daughter to invite a couple of her old friends over for a playdate and sleepover, she seems excited and tbh distracted by this so fingers crossed it does the trick.
Reading what many of you have written I don't think that I will say anything and hope that it all blows over quickly. I know that there is a lesson here for her in terms of how she treats other girls and I hope that I can get her to see it without her feeling too upset. For now I think it is more about me getting her through this next week. Thanks again to everyone who has posted.
ps i had to change my username slightly to write this, I posted as a guest and I don't seem to be able to re use the name that I picked.

Re: daughter not invited to party

by i'macowboy » Mon Sep 13, 2021 1:06 pm

I can see how this might be a bit upsetting but I'm not sure you can - or should - 'do' anything about it really, especially if the girls aren't actually friends (which is very different to a friend not inviting her). I also think that if there are two of them not invited, that also makes a difference - one solitary person being left out is definitely not on; two makes it clearer that it's not likely to be personal. Is it a party where numbers might be limited (e.g. an activity-based party)? If there are 9 girls including the birthday girl, and the birthday girl has a sibling, then that's 10 in total which might be all they can (or want to, if it's something quite pricey) invite. Finally, is your daughter actually upset about it? I only ask as I think sometimes it's us parents who worry more about this stuff. If she is, as others say, do something nice with her that day, then draw a line under it. 

Re: daughter not invited to party

by Ex Clapham resident » Mon Sep 13, 2021 12:27 pm

This is tough and quite hard to understand with these numbers- if you’re inviting 8, why not 2 more? Is there a chance the invite could’ve got lost in her bag? The mum might be wondering why you’ve not replied?

You could check with her - say something like ‘ I just wanted to check we hadn’t missed an invitation to name’s birthday’. That way, you’re not making a fuss, covering yourself if you’ve missed it and making a not so subtle point!! 🙃

Re: daughter not invited to party

by rosie.fc » Mon Sep 13, 2021 11:55 am

That’s really tough.
Is there any downside of having a quick chat with the mum? She may not have thought through the impact of not inviting just 2 and may bot be intentionally unkind. This way at least there’s a chance to change it and it may not be a big deal. Then no need to ‘rise above it’ or get over it.
Otherwise it’s hard to solve it.
And agree with the idea that chatting to the class teacher about a rule that if most are invited all should be. Good luck.

Re: daughter not invited to party

by Vista321 » Mon Sep 13, 2021 10:54 am

This happened to my daughter in the summer too. A girls in her class, whom she’s been with since reception and invited to her own party, invited 17 other girls to her party at home but not my daughter. My daughter took it well initially, when she found out from her friends, but has mentioned a lot since and I know is deeply hurt.
I tried to counsel my daughter but am pretty sure that this was at the behest of the other girl’s mother, who’s not keen on my daughter as she is very direct.
I considered saying something to the mother but have decided against it and will try and rise above it. My daughter is aware that it was probably down to the mother though and this is important so that she maintains a relationship with the girl at school. This girl has now been put in a different class so should be easier not to invite her when my daughter’s birthday comes up!

Re: daughter not invited to party

by faybian » Mon Sep 13, 2021 9:44 am

Have you considered talking to the class teacher? We had a rule in our class that if you asked more than half the class you had to ask everyone, for exactly this reason. It is tricky with a class of 11 as it's so small, I certainly think it would be better to invite everyone if the party is larger than just close friends.

Re: daughter not invited to party

by dan.johns » Mon Sep 13, 2021 9:16 am

By school year 3 not everyone has to be friends (no matter how much we as parents might want to imagine their school as a social learning utopia) and nobody has to invite people who aren't their friends to their party, but it is important to make sure this isn't part of a pattern of exclusion. A school class size of just 11 may be a cause for concern, as most schools in SW London are oversubscribed and a class of 30 is way more common, it is nice to feel your child will get more of a Teacher's attention, but it does mean that Social Exclusion as a form of bullying is going to be more common, and it is worthwhile having a quick chat with the form teacher to make them aware of the situation. They will likely insist that nothing untoward is happening because schools are terrified of 'the B word' but it happens at all schools and in all classes to a greater or lesser extent. Informing them that you are aware of the situation and the potential pitfalls should be enough for a good primary teacher to stop things getting too bad (it can sometimes be solved by something as straightforward as switching up a seating plan). If your daughter is at any point finding herself excluded from play etc during school then take the issue to the Head Teacher immediately, do not worry about seeming to be a bothersome parent. This is the age these problems tend to rear their heads, and can continue all the way to Year 6 if not dealt with.

Re: daughter not invited to party

by Mum2Girlz » Mon Sep 13, 2021 9:03 am

I’m so sorry, that’s horrible. Is your daughter’s birthday coming up? I’d focus on the positive and plan the best day for her and her friends, even if it isn’t for a while.

Re: daughter not invited to party

by Phoenixpayne » Mon Sep 13, 2021 7:30 am

No one has to invite anyone they don't want to their birthday party. That's life, it honestly isn't a big deal. When I was younger there was no such thing as inviting the whole class, none of us cared and our mum's wouldn't have even considered approaching a parent about it. You've said it yourself she's not your daughters friend.

If she didn't win a race in sports day and everyone in her class did would you buy her a medal?

Re: daughter not invited to party

by Galpod1 » Mon Sep 13, 2021 7:09 am

I’m so sorry you’re going through this, that sucks. I would check though with the kid: we once happened to go to a playground where my son’s classmate’s birthday party was happening but my son never clued in or felt excluded. He was just happy to find all these friends there. It took me a while to let that go but he wasn’t affected.

Re: daughter not invited to party

by ellesmum » Mon Sep 13, 2021 6:54 am

I had this, too, a few years ago, although it wasn't a new mix, just snobby parents who were bigger bullies than their kids - and apples often don't fall far from trees. Unfortunately, though, there's nothing much you can do - it's their party and they can invite, or exclude, whoever they wish. Rise above it and use it as a tool to teach your daughter resilience and kindness. I was, and am, lucky that my daughter dances to the beat of her own drum & really didn't care that she was left out for other people's parties. However, it was having invites to her own party turned down, ignored, or no-shows from people who said that they were coming that hurt more. I would grit your teeth and plan something fun with your daughter on that day.

Re: daughter not invited to party

by NoodleFan » Mon Sep 13, 2021 6:49 am

I would let it go - at least it’s not kids in her close friendship group being mean. And if you force the issue it probably won’t make you feel better if she is invited.
Great idea in the post above to spoil her - maybe ask one of her better friends to come to tea.

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