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Re: Reckless driver in Stormont Road / Clapham Northside

by SW17 Dad » Fri Aug 18, 2023 1:33 pm

I think what happened to your family was terrible. You should call the police they can scan the CCTV cameras, only takes a few minutes though might take them a while to work through the current queue. It's worth as by the description that woman's behaviour is a danger to all road-users.

However, as the driver of a minibus for a charity in Wandsworth from time to time I have to agree with other posts here that the Cargo-bikes are risky (though the idea is great for non-road routes). I saw a near miss only in June at the juction of St James's drive and Trinity Road. In our minibus they can't be seen corretly via the mirrors and unlike a cycle they are not slim enough to maneouvre such that they get themselves into our mirror view - as cyclists know to do when suddenly finding themselves behind a large vehicle. I have had few occassion when my heart skipped a beat with Cargo-Bikes, not as bad as scooters but a clear 2nd.

Re: Reckless driver in Stormont Road / Clapham Northside

by Balhamqueen » Thu Aug 17, 2023 11:51 am

Haha. Perhaps you should change your name to Furyqueen? So so aggressive! Are you that mum on the cargo bike lol?

As I said earlier, we come from one of those big cycling countries and my husband actually cycles to work every single day. This is why your response makes me laugh.

However, he would be the first one to bemoan the lack of cycling culture if he was on here. He often comments on what he sees on the streets, cyclists ignoring red lights and often almost hitting pedestrians, ignoring zebra crossing and trying to zig zag their way through families crossing on the way to school, overtaking illegally on the wrong side and then gesturing and shouting at the drivers if they feel they don't have enough space etc...

Reread my post, perhaps without your fury - I say the respect is needed on both sides, not that cyclists are bad. Some are bad and some drivers are bad

Re: Reckless driver in Stormont Road / Clapham Northside

by Ferryqueen » Thu Aug 17, 2023 7:10 am

I think the important thing to mention is that you and your toddler are perfectly fine and did not get hit. Stop trying to stir up anti-cycling sentiment here - we need more people to work together to improve transport options and less squabbling.

Re: Reckless driver in Stormont Road / Clapham Northside

by Balhamqueen » Wed Aug 09, 2023 10:56 pm

I should also clarify as it feels important - the person who almost ran over my daughter other day was a mum with one of those electric cargo bikes on the common. They go so fast, my daughter is a toddler, it's a park, and she was so aggressive. An absolutely horrible experience I've never encountered before. The courtesy is needed on all sides.

Re: Reckless driver in Stormont Road / Clapham Northside

by Balhamqueen » Wed Aug 09, 2023 10:55 pm

I should also clarify as it feels important - the person who almost ran over my daughter other day was a mum with one of those electric cargo bikes on the common. They go so fast, my daughter is a toddler, it's a park, and she was so aggressive. An absolutely horrible experience I've never encountered before. The courtesy is needed on all sides.

Re: Reckless driver in Stormont Road / Clapham Northside

by Balhamqueen » Wed Aug 09, 2023 10:51 pm

I agree. The behaviour of that driver is totally unacceptable and obnoxious. Not excusable at all. However, as a driver, not of a SUV I might add, I also find the behaviour of many cyclists around here horrendous. I'm not British and I come from one of those "civilised countries" people mentioned in earlier messages but, trust me, it's not only the drivers who are civilised there but also the cyclists. I'm a mother of two small children and I have a dog I often walk on the common. The behaviour of some cyclists is shocking and so arrogant it often leaves me speechless. They almost ran over my child on the common the other day. It's like they are above all laws. Nothing I've ever witnessed in my civilised home country...

Re: Reckless driver in Stormont Road / Clapham Northside

by chorister » Wed Aug 09, 2023 7:18 pm

Whether or not cargo bikes are a good idea (and I admit to reservations) the behaviour described by the OP Is completely unacceptable.  With a bit of luck the perpetrator will be identified and punished, though I wouldn't hold my breath.

Re: Reckless driver in Stormont Road / Clapham Northside

by Not sure » Wed Aug 09, 2023 5:28 pm

I love the 'village' idea but I am not a fan of cargo bikes. For me its simply not safe enough for children in an urban area on main roads with buses lorries and electric scooters and all sorts of other vehicles moving at speed. I was dismayed to see another transport mechanism being a parent cycling down Lavender Hill on the main road with a small child in a sort of 'basket' at the front of the bike.
There are a number of proposals made by the Mets cycle safety team regarding regular maintenance and logbooks etc and there have been fatal accidents as the laws surrounding cyclists arent well developed apparently. Things like drivers visibility, maintenance of the carriage etc
I think the point is mainly that we don't live in a village, or a small town. where it might be safe in short journeys. Many keen cyclists would not even cycle round London in busy areas.

Re: Reckless driver in Stormont Road / Clapham Northside

by astro » Tue Aug 08, 2023 11:24 pm

We have a cargo bike and have used it daily for the last 2 years with no issue around the neighbourhood. My kids and I wear a helmet and we’re careful using it, using bike paths when we can. I think it is a wonderful form of transport which is positive for the environment and alleviates pressure on parking and traffic in the local area - so you think car users would be grateful. There are lots of people using them now (>20 at our local school). Of course, if DickyD is so worried about the safety of my children, perhaps we should ban cars and have everyone get around by bike and then they’d be much safer :-)

Good luck original poster with finding the irresponsible driver who clearly engaged in unnecessary and illegal behaviour.

Re: Reckless driver in Stormont Road / Clapham Northside

by guesttonappy » Mon Aug 07, 2023 9:02 am

In support of the neighboors up the road from ours.

In other more civilised countries in Europe cargo bikes are the more standardised vehicle of choice. I guess here in the UK where so many can't drive safely and in respect of others they look at cyclists as the wrong doers. I can't believe how many people our immediate area live in their entitled bubble with no regards to environment or respect of others.
Who in their right mind even need a SUV in our neighbourhood? What century do you live in and do you even keep up with the climate crisis?

I'm disgusted at how many car drop-offs and pick ups to Bellevilles meteor site. Some drive absolutely insane around the blocks. How far could they possibly live from school.

How hard is it to keep a safe distance to cyclists? I hope this doesn't happen to you again. These roads need to be made safer to cyclists and the city needs to study other European cities more closely for emission reduction and safer roads.

Re: Reckless driver in Stormont Road / Clapham Northside

by dimelda » Tue Aug 01, 2023 10:47 am

Well said, Virginiafal.   Disregard DickyD altogether – she’s ranting on a subject about which she undoubtedly knows little, nor has any facts or evidence to back up her belligerent posts.    Good luck in your dealings with the police on this matter .. it’s to be hoped the dangerous driver involved is tracked down, & at the very least given a dressing down.

Re: Reckless driver in Stormont Road / Clapham Northside

by virginiafal » Mon Jul 31, 2023 9:07 pm

A quick look at your profile @DickyD suggest ours are very different worldviews so I don't expect we would ever agree on environmental policy, politics, common sense... let alone parenting.

However I don't really understand why you are so openly abusing anyone who disagrees with you while implicitly defending some who did something ILLEGAL. I can (and have, thanks to the otherwise helpful tips in this post) request proof and report to the police what this woman did. There's nothing illegal about me using a cargo bike other than you thinking is stupid (which again, is not illegal just your opinion).

I also don't understand why you would challenge my right to come here and denounce someone that affects me and many members of this community. Many of us choose not to drive but also drivers too are affected, reckless driving is not a joke. There was a fatal collision in Clapham High Street just this weekend.

While I wholeheartedly disagree with your opinions, you have a right to have them and post them. Please extend everyone else the same courtesy.

Re: Reckless driver in Stormont Road / Clapham Northside

by dimelda » Mon Jul 31, 2023 10:08 am

Dickyd:  Despite what you say, in more enlightened countries - like Denmark for example - where motorists obey traffic rules, unlike in the UK where motorists think the roads are for them & them only - cargobikes with children in them are to be seen everywhere.  The authorities encourage their use.  If they're dangerous in the UK, it's not because of the cargobike, it's because of selfish reckless drivers like the one referred to in this post - & possibly like you too.  

Re: Reckless driver in Stormont Road / Clapham Northside

by Dickyd » Mon Jul 31, 2023 8:55 am

handbagsatdawn wrote: Mon Jul 24, 2023 4:00 pmAgree with @gemima. Contribute constructively Dicky D or maybe not at all? They aren't illegal and have every right to be on the road. 
You and Gemima I would suggest need to wake up ! Transporting kids around in Cargo Bikes is A) potentially very Dangerous and B) EXTREMELY STUPID!. The last thing anyone who cycles around with their kids rattling around in a 'box' attached to the front (or rear for that matte)r, should not have the nerve to come on here and complain about other road users! As for upsetting your sense and sensibilties about my original post on this subject, I really do not care. May be you and gemima need to get out a bit more!
 

Re: Reckless driver in Stormont Road / Clapham Northside

by Ramaboo » Mon Jul 24, 2023 10:45 pm

A camera has recently been installed at the intersection of Stormont and Northside (i know this because I got a ticket foolishly turning right when I didn't notice they had just made it no right turn) 

I don't know how easy it is to access the footage but you may be allowed with a call to the council with a specific time and date? 

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