@Instaurer - parents should not be driving to school to drop off their kids when we live in Zone 2. The catchment for Belleville and Honeywell is very small; we have excellent public transport not to mention cycling and walking as alternatives.

I fear there are too many cars and too little infrastructure to support the amount of traffic. I have seen a marked increase in road traffic since Covid. The “quiet” roads have never been so busy, especially at drop off/ pickup times.

I can only assume the stats from Wandsworth Council on catchment area are inaccurate or incomplete (ie. the stats don’t account for in-term transfers). Either more parents are living significant distance outside of catchment than the council statistics suggest or parents have become more lazy over the last 5-10 years. But Belleville Primary is crazy during drop off. The School Street has mitigated it somewhat, but shows you how bad it got that it had to be implemented.

There s/ be more of a clampdown on the school run. These parents make it more dangerous for local kids to walk to school, increase air pollution as well as making it a misery for local residents who have to deal with entitled parents blocking roads or parking in restricted places.

Definitely lobby the council for traffic calming measures, chicanes, road bumps etc and noone should be speeding on side or any other roads but, in response to the poster who is hoping their future children could play in the street, this is madness. What is this obsession with wanting kids to play in the road? The amazing outdoor spaces of Clapham and Wandsworth Common are right on the doorstep with playgrounds, pitches, paths for cycling and woody bits for climbing trees and building camps? We are so lucky that within easy reach are so many outdoor areas with woodlands and wildlife (Wimbledon, Richmond) and there are more activities available for children now than there ever were 10, 20 or more years ago. If it is the idea that children can be left unsupervised on the doorstep whilst another parent (possibly) keeps an eye on them, it is irresponsible. Someone suggested that they move to the countryside if that is what they want - I grew up outside a village in a very, very rural area and we didn't play in the road except to cycle around, there were far more interesting places to play (not necessarily safe) and it certainly was not encouraged because of blind bends, narrow roads, agricultural machinery and so on - countryside roads not being a playground either. This halcyon view of children playing on roads is often peddled by the LTN fans as a precursor to making their street a gated enclosure at the expense of others having their roads in constant gridlock. 

Other side of the Clapham common has the same issues. Alfriston road , and all others nearby turned into a full driving street as everyone drives to Bellevue and Honeywell schools , Northcote road etc. so should we then complaint to close our roads? Then how you will drive to schools there ? Roads all should be open as it was said correctly otherwise it builds up traffic in other areas and still you will breathe this pollution from traffic jams.

I live on Sisters Ave and have complained to the council in the past (10 years ago!) about the speed of drivers after I saw a cat killed by one. I have suggested road calming measures but was given excuses about a previous “unsuccessful” trial. Can the residents of Sisters Avenue/Thirsk/Mysore join forces to petition for something to be done.

Remember roads are like the arteries of the body, block one and the pressure will build up on others.

What they did on Mysore is moving the traffic to other local roads.

These sort of discussions are basically sticking 2 fingers up at your neighbours.

Roads should all be open

We had a wonderful neighbour on Mysore Road (one over from Sisters' Avenue) who did lobby the council for this and was actually successful. I think it took her quite a while but it did really help -- Mysore Road is now no entry from Lavender Hill (and has been for 6 years) and no right turn from Elspeth, which cut down on the rat running. It's narrower than Sisters Avenue and we had had a few incidents where the police were called.

At the time the no entry restrictions went into place, the council did say it would monitor the surrounding roads to see if there was an increase in traffic. So they should have some data or be able to help. The restrictions went into place June 2018. I would imagine the bike lane and no left turn on Elspeth from Lavender Hill since late 2020 has also made things worse. Or possibly just all the Google Maps sending people that way!

Google Maps have directed me down Marjorie/Sisters before now and I guess other sat navs might too which is a bit of a problem.

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Hi everyone,

My wife and I moved into a lovely flat on Sisters Avenue near Lavender Hill this January. However, we were unpleasantly surprised to find that not only is the road used as a rat run during rush hour, but it’s also treated as a drag racing strip by many cars at night. This constant traffic, particularly the reckless speeding, makes our street incredibly unsafe.

Our side of Sisters Avenue, closer to Lavender Hill, sees a lot of traffic heading towards the A3 via Marjorie Grove. It's different from what others have mentioned, where the traffic flows from the A3 over Sisters Avenue and Thirsk Road towards Lavender Hill. Regardless, the speeds at which cars and vans travel through our part of the road are ridiculous. We often can't get out of our car after parking due to the stream of speeding vehicles.

More worrying is the danger we face while cycling or even crossing the road on foot. Drivers speed up and drive you of the road instead of slowing down, making it incredibly unsafe. And gesturing to drivers to slow down often results in profanities being hurled at us.

We want to start a family, but I can't imagine raising children on such a dangerous street. It's clear why we never see kids playing outside here.

I know a previous petition to the council didn't result in any action, but I'm hoping we can generate new momentum to force the council to act. We need a traffic calming solution for Sisters Avenue, Thirsk Road, and Marjorie Grove, possibly extending to Cedars Road. This is a residential area which is abused as a high-speed thoroughfare by non-residents.

The council's West Hill Traffic Management Scheme shows they implement measures like ANPR that don't impact residents. I believe a combination of ANPR, a one-way system, road humps (not just bumps or cushions), and possibly even road narrowing at the entrances could help. However, it seems only two roads have gotten road humps since mid-2020, which isn't promising.

As I've just been woken up again by a loud car testing its exhaust noise, I went on a search and I found this post! Luckily it seems we are not the only ones who think the traffic situation is not sustainable. So I’ll contact the council to see if there's a proper procedure to follow and report back here. I hope fellow residents will join us in making these roads safer and more enjoyable to live on!

 

Definitely worth a try to get traffic calming arranged.

Children playing in the street, agree with above poster, totally unrealistic for this area.
We dont live in a village, which is also my bugbear with some driving small children in carts on main roads.

A group request will be useful re traffic as traffic speed affects everyone.

bdacier1 wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> My wife and I moved into a lovely flat on Sisters Avenue near Lavender Hill
> this January. However, we were unpleasantly surprised to find that not only
> is the road used as a rat run during rush hour, but it’s also treated as a
> drag racing strip by many cars at night. This constant traffic,
> particularly the reckless speeding, makes our street incredibly unsafe.
>
> Our side of Sisters Avenue, closer to Lavender Hill, sees a lot of traffic
> heading towards the A3 via Marjorie Grove. It's different from what others
> have mentioned, where the traffic flows from the A3 over Sisters Avenue and
> Thirsk Road towards Lavender Hill. Regardless, the speeds at which cars and
> vans travel through our part of the road are ridiculous. We often can't get
> out of our car after parking due to the stream of speeding vehicles.
>
> More worrying is the danger we face while cycling or even crossing the road
> on foot. Drivers speed up and drive you of the road instead of slowing
> down, making it incredibly unsafe. And gesturing to drivers to slow down
> often results in profanities being hurled at us.
>
> We want to start a family, but I can't imagine raising children on such a
> dangerous street. It's clear why we never see kids playing outside here.
>
> I know a previous petition to the council didn't result in any action, but
> I'm hoping we can generate new momentum to force the council to act. We
> need a traffic calming solution for Sisters Avenue, Thirsk Road, and
> Marjorie Grove, possibly extending to Cedars Road. This is a residential
> area which is abused as a high-speed thoroughfare by non-residents.
>
> The council's West Hill Traffic Management Scheme shows they implement
> measures like ANPR that don't impact residents. I believe a combination of
> ANPR, a one-way system, road humps (not just bumps or cushions), and
> possibly even road narrowing at the entrances could help. However, it seems
> only two roads have gotten road humps since mid-2020, which isn't
> promising.
>
> As I've just been woken up again by a loud car testing its exhaust noise, I
> went on a search and I found this post! Luckily it seems we are not the
> only ones who think the traffic situation is not sustainable. So I’ll
> contact the council to see if there's a proper procedure to follow and
> report back here. I hope fellow residents will join us in making these
> roads safer and more enjoyable to live on!

Did you not notice what was wrong with the road before you moved in? If you wanted a road for children to play 9n wdnt a cul de sac or the countryside be more suitable than an obviously busy street. I get what others have said bt moving into an obviously busy neighbourhood then wanting to change it ....

There’s a community drop in this weekend - a few people from my street (Marjorie Grove) are going to raise this exact point. I grew up here and I don’t remember it being like this - I now have an almost 3 old and I’m nervous about his safety. We’re hoping to go too but the more people that raise it the more seriously it will be taken.

https://www.wandsworth.gov.uk/the-counc ... to-listen/

I agree: gathering data is a powerful tool. And you do need to start with your local councillors - find the one whose role most closely fits streets/traffic/safety. Research who is responsible for the implementation of traffic calming in your area. Are there children walking to school along the road or is there a school near? Is there a borough road safety officer? We had a similar issue with a dangerous road crossing and photographed cars driving through on red etc. We got there in the end. Hope you succeed!

As a suggestion keep a diary and may be recordings of when you are disturbed and then approach your local councillor - they hold regular surgeries.

Hi everyone,

My wife and I moved into a lovely flat on Sisters Avenue near Lavender Hill this January. However, we were unpleasantly surprised to find that not only is the road used as a rat run during rush hour, but it’s also treated as a drag racing strip by many cars at night. This constant traffic, particularly the reckless speeding, makes our street incredibly unsafe.

Our side of Sisters Avenue, closer to Lavender Hill, sees a lot of traffic heading towards the A3 via Marjorie Grove. It's different from what others have mentioned, where the traffic flows from the A3 over Sisters Avenue and Thirsk Road towards Lavender Hill. Regardless, the speeds at which cars and vans travel through our part of the road are ridiculous. We often can't get out of our car after parking due to the stream of speeding vehicles.

More worrying is the danger we face while cycling or even crossing the road on foot. Drivers speed up and drive you of the road instead of slowing down, making it incredibly unsafe. And gesturing to drivers to slow down often results in profanities being hurled at us.

We want to start a family, but I can't imagine raising children on such a dangerous street. It's clear why we never see kids playing outside here.

I know a previous petition to the council didn't result in any action, but I'm hoping we can generate new momentum to force the council to act. We need a traffic calming solution for Sisters Avenue, Thirsk Road, and Marjorie Grove, possibly extending to Cedars Road. This is a residential area which is abused as a high-speed thoroughfare by non-residents.

The council's West Hill Traffic Management Scheme shows they implement measures like ANPR that don't impact residents. I believe a combination of ANPR, a one-way system, road humps (not just bumps or cushions), and possibly even road narrowing at the entrances could help. However, it seems only two roads have gotten road humps since mid-2020, which isn't promising.

As I've just been woken up again by a loud car testing its exhaust noise, I went on a search and I found this post! Luckily it seems we are not the only ones who think the traffic situation is not sustainable. So I’ll contact the council to see if there's a proper procedure to follow and report back here. I hope fellow residents will join us in making these roads safer and more enjoyable to live on!

A cheap car can be bought at auction/from private seller for cash.The seller sends off to dvla their part of registration document saying sold but new owner does not register in their name,or in name rhat does not exist at any address.no insurance or road fund licence will be picked up by the police but the cost of the car maybe £500 against young persons insurance of £500+ a month payments! (If they have UK or any licence) plus road fund licence means cheaper to change car when things llke this happen,or parking tickets or tow away just leave it as happened this time and buy another one!
For problem: Get street made one way ( everybody in street contact council!)
Large reflective sign on wall on bend with arrow pointing which way to turn! Until sorted.