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[NoseyNoo]

What do you mean by 'problems such as colic'? I thought that colic wasn't a medical condition so you can't cure colic and hope that they settle themselves.

I'm really weary of mums being offered solutions to a problem that doesn't really exist. Young babies cry and don't sleep over night like us.

It sounds to me like Vanilla is doing a great job already.

Vanilla, I hope you will take the 'Baby Whisperer' with a pinch of salt. I was given it when I was pregnant and it set quite false expectations and made me feel like I was a failure because my baby didn't sleep like the angel baby that she described. It made me feel that I was doing something wrong when the only thing I was doing wrong was ready that bloomin' book!

[Vanilla]

Thank you again all for your advice!

NoseyNoo, please do not be alarmed, I'm searching for options at this stage and not going to sleep train my boy right now as I'm aware that he is too young. Plus making him sleep through the night is anyway not why I'm looking for help as I wouldn't expect it until much later (especially since I'm breast feeding). Re the book, I'm really not a sort of person who takes advice from books without my own scrutiny so please don't worry Thank you for sharing your thoughts though, I appreciate it!

[NoseyNoo]

Cool!

[marypoppins]

Nosynoo, the problem is that the baby won' t sleep without being held, not unreasonable expectations of newborn sleep patterns. Everyone needs help sometimes and we are not all gurus selling impossible dreams. People don' t always access the support they need through statutory provision or family support and a professional can be very useful to fill the gaps and provide support.

[marypoppins]

Why do you say colic doesn' t exist. Some babys suffer terrible discomfort - what' s in a name?

[firsttimerSW11]

Hi there, I just wanted to reassure you that I was in your boat 3 weeks ago. I have an 11 week old baby who would only sleep in my arms. Well meaning friends suggested an item of my clothing in the moses basket/hot water bottle to warm it up/Ewan the Dream Sheep/Prince Lionheart/White Noise you name it, I tried it. I tried the cot, moses basket, bed nest and still the baby wouldn't sleep anywhere but on me. I really was quite stressed out about the whole thing. I made two changes, not saying these will work for you but I just wanted to share my experience. 1) My LO had reflux so I was prescribed Infant Gaviscon by my GP which thankfully worked.
The other thing is that we discovered through trial and error that she categorically didn't like sleeping on her back. So we put her on her stomach, against all guidelines etc so I was torn about doing it but it works. She has gone from not sleeping at all or on me, to through the night and will nap in the basket during the day and sleep in the bed nest upstairs by night. It's like a changed child.
Oh and a third thing, we went to a cranial osteopath and in fact we are still seeing her. I have always been a bit skeptical/dubious about it, but it can't hurt. The OCC is very good (google for details).
People told me in the early days that it would get better, I found it very hard to believe, but it does. What they didn't tell me was that you don't really have to do anything for it to get better. They just get bigger and the fog clears. If it didn't, let's face it, there would be a lot of Only Children out there.
Anyway, wishing you luck, I feel your pain but it really does get better.

[NoseyNoo]

I'd second the OCC (Osteopathic Children's Centre ) in Wandsworth. A few sessions of cranial osteopathy can do wonders.

Mary Poppins, I'm saying Colic doesn't exist because it is not an physiological condition. It is not a problem with a part of a baby's anatomy. Colic just means that a baby is crying for more than 3 hours a day for more than 3 days a week over 3 weeks. It's basically what a GP notes down when there is nothing wrong with a baby. As far as I know, there are not similar words for 'colic' in non-English languages (happy to be corrected on that point though), presumably because it is not an actual condition.

[mullana]

Hi Vanilla
I thoroughly recommend Hattie Weeks. She came to see me & my DD at 5days & very calmly went through some basics (routine, swaddling, sleep cues etc) which we implemented straight away.
I'm not saying that it's easy, but Hattie was so reassuring & she knows her stuff. My DD is now 2 & has been sleeping for 12hrs since 4months (most of the time - there are always hiccups) and has always been able to settle to sleep (post Hattie) without any rocking, holding singing, gizmos or gadgets. She's not an anxious child, nor were there any major 'set backs' at any stage, apart when I went back to work at 9mths but I think she picked up on my anxiety more than anything else.
Hattie saved my sanity - fact!!
Good luck

[Vanilla]

Just for an update, thanks to Hattie, my little one now sleeps in his crib!
Hattie came over for a three-hour consultation and on that day I had the best sleep since my first contraction (which started in the evening).
Night sleep has been great since and with a clear yet flexible routine, our days are much more predictable and manageable which is like a dream for a first time mum who used to be completely lost! Thank you Hattie!