MLTC tennis member sees red mist & calls for resignations

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MLTC tennis member sees red mist & calls for resignations

Postby Annabel (admin) » Fri Jul 04, 2014 8:41 am

"After seeing a red mist come down at the meeting last night Magdelene tennis member Julian Dodds has sent the following e mail to the club asking for the resignation of the committee handling the Romany site on behalf of the tennis club.

From: Julian Dodds <jdodds@geronimo.co.uk>
Date: Thursday, 3 July 2014 21:06
To: Magdalen Park LTC <magdalenparkltc@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Romany Site - Consultation with members

I would like to propose that the members of the committee in charge of the Romany site resign as they have brought the club into disrepute by
Failing to give the whole picture regarding the way the scouts use the whole site and not just the site they have a lease on
Showed a total lack of judgement in refusing the offer of £300,000 from a local resident who would keep the site as is. This sum is an absolutely fantastic windfall. Even contemplating the offer from Mr David in the light of this offer makes you all guilty of selling the club’s soul to the devil. It shows how mealy mouthed and falsely framed the information provided to club members has been. Where did all the sensitive balanced thinking go to when this offer came in from the local resident?
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Re: MLTC tennis member sees red mist & calls for resignation

Postby Lovingsleep » Fri Jul 04, 2014 9:41 am

I agree!
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Postby Lovingsleep » Fri Jul 04, 2014 9:45 am

Let's at least give them six months to come up with a better offer
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Postby Ground Control » Fri Jul 04, 2014 10:03 am

Yes, also agree entirely! One club member resigned publicly during the Public meeting! Expressing his disgust at the behaviour of the TC Committee and of Aly Adam in particular. You know what, when all is said, the Club will probably end up with no deal at all as the ACV will kick in and the sale will be null and void and developer Abid David will get a refund. We, as a club member have been duped by the Committee. Let's regain control of our club and kick the Committee out. Let's get a proper vote on this: one ember, one vote!
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Postby SaveTheRomany*Mums » Fri Jul 04, 2014 10:13 am

We would like tennis club members to ask Aly Adams
if she and her committee stand to receive a personal
Success Fee from Abid David for pushing this deal past
Your members ? Otherwise why the hurry to lock it down and refusal
to consider other non development offers on the table ?
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Re: MLTC tennis member sees red mist & calls for resignation

Postby Caferacer » Fri Jul 04, 2014 11:20 am

There is so much in both the MLTC's actions and Mr David's bussiness plan that defies logic.

There is a pervading fishy smell about all of it.

Well done to Mr Dodds for recognising the smell and having the claer conviction to take a stand.

This is far from being a joke now - and many people will see it as one of shallow wit, when more people weep rather than laugh at it.

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Postby Bewler » Fri Jul 04, 2014 1:29 pm

Please, tennis club members, look to your consciences about the sale of the Romany. The land was originally valued at £50-60k due to the restrictive covenants on the land which were supposed to protect it from commercial development. You have been offered £300,00 for the site from a local resident who wants to keep it for the community! This offer is a phenomenal 5 times the best offer you originally hoped for and was then increased to £350,000! It is a jackpot! Why would you allow your committee to turn this down on your behalf in order to bulldoze through a deal with Abid David behind your backs? Don't be fooled - he wants to develop the whole site - it is there for all to read in the asset of community value order. Your chairwoman thinks all her members care about is money ? Is she right? Do you really not care about the impact this will have on all the community groups that use the Romany? The loss of patronage of Beatrix potter? Your clubs reputation? I don't believe it. Please use your voices on Sunday and ask Aly what her personal motivation is to conclude this deal so quickly. Your community wants to buy this land. Please give us a chance.
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Postby Bewler » Sat Jul 05, 2014 12:21 am

So the Magdalen Lawn Tennis Club have now cancelled their consultation meeting on Sunday to discuss the sale of the Romany because they don't want their members to face a picket of save the Romany campaigners. Apparently one on one consultation is preferred method of feedback so yet again the club is avoiding having to put this sale to a vote of their members. This is supposed to be a club not the Alj Adams show! Call an EGM!
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Postby Lovingsleep » Sat Jul 05, 2014 9:17 am

Is the meeting today at the Tennis club really cancelled?

Members! Please call for an Extraordinary General Meeting and urge them to accept the non development offer.

Are the committee members being personally / financially rewarded for this sale, it makes no sense?
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Postby SaveTheRomany*Mums » Sat Jul 05, 2014 1:02 pm

The tennis club have announced on their website this morning that the Consultation to members Re The imminent sale of The Romany site is now cancelled due to Save The Romany Campaigners planning on picketing outside their tennis club at 10am on Sunday morning when their members were asked to come to that very important consultation
"I'm afraid we would probably have to inform the police of a potential public order concern. We are also worried about security for members arriving and leaving and we suspect that non-members may try and gain access to the clubhouse"

Playgroup Toddlers in buggies, 7 year old Cub Scouts in their uniforms and their parents are hardly going to be a public order concern or be threatening anyone or "invading the club" This is not an Anti Poll Tax Demonstration , their dramatic cancellation is laughable.

MPLTC Letter here http://bit.ly/1qHWIki
(Tennis members comments on this letter is interesting)

But we shall still be there at 10am Sunday 6th to demonstrate to attending club members the reality of their clubs behaviour and who their clubs committees incomprehensible decision is going to truly affect.

It appears that the Clubs sub committee don't want an open discussion but want to restrict "discussion" to emails.
Following the public meeting, the position would appear to be this:

The tennis club sub committee have accepted an offer of £300k subject to tennis club members approval.
They have declined an offer of £350k from a local philanthropist who wishes to keep the space open with existing use for the wider community- Wandsworth Twins Club, The Playhouse Playgroup, 1st Wandsworth Scouts, dance groups.etc- see list below.

The tennis club have rejected the higher initial bid on the basis that they believe that the developer will be able to develop the Romany.

This will trigger a £200k bonus for them. Clearly they are proposing that the tennis club members support the development of the Romany site and this is apparently what the sub committee members want to happen.

The indication from the highest levels at WBC, is that the strict terms and spirit of the restrictive covenant- to keep the Romany as public open space- will be upheld by the council and any planning will be refused for the private nursery or any other development. But this will require public opposition to the proposals

WBC would not wish to be the first London Council to fall foul of the Localism Act. This would be a National issue (not 3rd page of the local Guardian) and would potentially receive scrutiny from the highest political levels.

So, if you believe that the developer will not receive planning consent and the tennis club members still vote for the proposal to develop the Romany, they will effectively be losing £50k.

What was said at the public meeting is that a vote to support the developer is a vote against the community of young parents and children in the area. This will alienate both the tennis club and tennis club members from the community.

To support the developer and not the community is a massive miscalculation by the sub committee.

It would also be a good idea if tennis club members could find out for themselves what the true uses of the Romany site are and who benefits from it.

At present they have a picture of Nimby neighbours and money grabbing scouts who are unwilling to pay a market rent and who are pocketing rent from sub-tenants -the phrase "stealing money from the tennis club" has been used in some more emotive exchanges.

The representations made by the tennis club to WBC when attempting to get the Asset of Community Value restriction lifted (to ease the way for development of the whole site) Please read these as they totally undermine the picture presented to the tennis club membership to date.
(We acquired this document under the freedom of information act and have attached it to this update- )

By the way, the publishing of this report was the first indication that the scouts had that the tennis club were actually opposing their lease renewal. Prior to this they had received sporadic responses and a bizarre request to discuss the renewal of their lease with the developer (who as yet is still not their landlord).

The scouts have properly served notice to renew their lease and the tennis club have failed to challenge any of the proposed terms within the required statutory time period. Effectively the club are fettered with having to grant a renewal on the same terms as before- save at a market rent which the scouts have offered. By selling to the developer, he will now be left with this task.

So, we must ensure that tennis club members are not unduly influenced by mis-information and are properly informed as to recent events and who actually uses the site and invite them to explore the users themselves and to make up their own minds about whether the wider community actually uses the site and should continue to use it.

The tennis club bought the Romany site for a song in the 1970's - as it already had the scouts on a long lease on half the plot and the restrictive covenant prevented use and any development over the whole plot.

The numbers of people who use the site weekly is difficult to quantify. However most are non profit charities. eg Scouts 180, Twins Club 420, Playhouse Playgroup 200, dance groups 40, childrens weekend party venue 1000's.

The developers proposals would put a stop to this..

This was confirmed by Ali Adam when she told WBC that the tennis club were in consultations with the developer and that the whole site was to be redeveloped and that the scouts lease renewal would be "strenuously resisted". At most the tennis club would be given a 5 year term - to allow full development of the site. Her representations make interesting reading and expose the clubs (?) eagerness to pave the way for eviction of existing charitable and community users and for development of the site -again, see attached ACV report from WBC and compare with postings on MPLTC website.

The scout hut was built in the 1960's. It is a basic concrete panel, bolt together construction with virtually no insulation. Heating bills alone are horrendous but without substantial investment there is little that can be done save to upgrade to more efficient heaters, secondary glazing etc New drains have been installed, the toilets modernised, a baby changing area installed, the buildings have been rewired, new energy efficient lighting installed, new flooring; the Explorers hut has been modernised but the kitchen area, well it needs total replacement. It haemorrhages money.

But investment in the buildings is only part of the picture. There are running costs associated with scouting- regular outings, equipment, training etc. The scouts have been diligent with their finances.

Consequently, other community groups have been allowed to use the facilities at nominal rents- rents that do not even cover heating costs alone, let alone dilapidations. Investment has been made where it is required but many projects have been put on hold with the uncertainty created by the tennis clubs deliberate delaying tactics (read- refusal) to renew the scouts lease.

So, please take a few minutes to get the real facts.

To be fair to the developer, he did appear to be shocked by the response he received at the public meeting. Has he been duped by the Tennis club into making an offer without all the facts? Is that why the conditional deal was signed in such an unseemly and some suggest, an obscene haste immediately before the public meeting- when there was a risk of dirty laundry being aired?

Here is a full list of current weekly Romany Site users website links;
http://www.1stwandsworthscouts.org.uk/
http://www.playhouseplaygroup.org/
http://www.wandsworthtwinsclub.org.uk/
http://www.trefoilguild.co.uk/
http://deborahjayneschoolofdance.co.uk/
http://www.singandsign.com/classes/clas ... aynes-park
http://artyparty.co.uk/about.htm
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Postby Mrs Contractor Mum » Sat Jul 05, 2014 8:35 pm

There is also the summer party on the 12th of July for a few banners. Good luck to the campaign and there is definitely a rotten smell of financial irregularity about it all.

I have no idea how the law works in this area but I cannot understand how one or two members of a committee can make an order of sale of an asset in a sports club without consulting it's members?

If I was a member of the club I would be declaring a vote of no confidence in the committee and demanding an independent evaluation of decisions made by the committee to date and requesting either an interim committee to be established while an investigation took place or an election of a new board if that's how the club works.
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