More changes on Northcote Road.

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More changes on Northcote Road.

Postby juliantenniscoach » Mon Apr 06, 2015 4:41 pm

I have it on good authority that both Dandelion and Harry's Newsagent are shutting for good at the end of their respective leases. I understand that the whole Dandelion building is being sold and redeveloped so they never had the opportunity to renew. Hopefully they can relocate locally?

As for the newsagents, again it's a case of rent rises wiping out any margin for that business. That's a shame, they are nice people and always great with my children.
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Postby klw » Mon Apr 06, 2015 6:14 pm

I am so sad that Harry and Mary are going, I had tears in my eyes when he told me they are leaving. They are a Northcote Road institution for us and my children and I will miss them hugely- they are the kindest people. Their last day of trading is next Sunday for anyone who wants to say goodbye...

I didn't know about dandelion, again very sad news for anyone who loves Northcote Road.
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Postby oab » Tue Apr 07, 2015 9:48 am

So sorry to hear about dandelion!!!
I hope they can relocate close by!
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Postby nellie50 » Tue Apr 07, 2015 10:45 am

My friend told me the lady in newsagents was in tears when she told her because she said they have been there for something like 29 years and had for nearly a year been batling with landlord over the lease but he just wants the cash chains can give.
I moved to London over 30 years ago, Northocote Road then was lovely. A big market lining both sides of the street all the way up, little delis, family owned restaurants, cafes that had been there donkey years. It had such atmosphere.
Now it could be any road in any town, all chains, all mummy yummy shops which are ridiculously expensive. A biscuit shop, the newest store on the boke, which has amazingly beautiful products - but £40 for a tin of biscuits!! Come on.
How long before the pet shop closes, the butchers, any shops that are not chains and have personality.
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Postby Moop » Tue Apr 07, 2015 9:52 pm

I grew up in this area and moved back to raise my own kids here and it was indeed a lovely area!

Sure it wasn't as purely affluent as it is now but it was no gang land! People from all classes would live here and mix happily without much due attention to whether you attended private schools or not where you holidayed and it was a wonderful place to be. I would regularly meet friends on street corners to play and it was safe, whereas I'm not sure now the same could be said with less of a community to watch out for you and more cars.

I used to buy my schools bus pass from Harry & Mary's shop and have ice cream at the local italian parlour that used to be on northcote road, shop at the fishmongers (priced out but now they run the fish van) and buy bubbles from QT toys.

It's offensive for me to hear comments saying the place used to be a hole before the influx of the last decade. It was just different.
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Postby nellie50 » Tue Apr 07, 2015 10:54 pm

seriously so you didn't live here 30 years ago, so you didn't regularly walk up and down the streeet practically everyday yet you accuse me of having rose coloured glasses!! It ws not rough, it was nice and friendly and not full of people like you!!
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Postby Claire M » Tue Apr 07, 2015 11:21 pm

I moved to Abbeville Road area over 20 years ago and it was lovely then but different. Klea Avenue which runs parallel to it used to be police accommodation according to my ancient neighbour so I seriusly doubt it was a dodgy area.
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Postby Mummykane » Tue Apr 07, 2015 11:59 pm

Get over yourselves people! Northcote rd is just a long rd full of pricy shops & people trying to out do each other!
Years ago it was a community! Yes I do know as I grew up there 35 yrs ago!

Such a shame so many normal working class people are being priced out but rich fat cats!!!!!!!!
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Postby Suslik » Wed Apr 08, 2015 12:41 am

Its disapponinting the post had been taken over by some who want to take offence and argue about working class and fat cats.

I love dandelion and will be very sad to see it go. Hope they do relocate! Biscuits at £35 per 3 or 5 is insane. Either it closes soon or we are in a bubble of some kind. Pet shop not so sure - had issues with them a few times. Dont think they care enough and look after live stock. All fishes i bought from them died very quickly, whereas ones from pets at home always live just fine.

That said, they are far far better than another real estate. I hope this site can lobby against more real estate slots. There has to be some street planning, cant just turn it into a line of agents
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Postby Vivtaylorgee » Wed Apr 08, 2015 6:55 am

We have lived in our house off Northcote Road for 36 years. It was then and remains, a lovely area, although the rents and rates have forced a lot of independent shops to fold. We should hang on to those that remain, if we can, by SHOPPING at them. I remember a market trader who finally closed up saying ruefully to me, "Trouble is, this area has really gone up!" If people only shop online or in big supermarkets, our precious shops won't survive.

We are still hoping to set up Northcote Books within the library building, a great new bookshop and cafe in partnership with the library. This will hopefully provide another lively local destination.
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Postby juliantenniscoach » Wed Apr 08, 2015 11:25 am

I was brought up in Upper Norwood before moving away. That's an area that's been up and down like a yo-yo! In the early '80's I lived in Whitechapel and in the late '80's I lived in Wimbledon but nearly bought on Wakehurst with a mate, (but he got sacked from his job for being hungover on his accountancy exams - doh!).

Compared to Whitechapel, this area was never rough in the '80's or early '90's. Tennis wise I started in 1995/6 at Clapham when the secondary school was still operating on what is now Walshingham Place by the courts. Again the area was never rough, if you think it was, then thank your lucky stars for your circumstances ;)

The area has changed for sure, but more so people have changed. Technology has changed which has had the biggest effect on retail. There wasn't Ocado in 1996! Also we've gone through a period where money is cheap and returns on others investments are low. Thus property has risen above the rate of inflation for years now, especially commercial property in certain areas. The investors are looking to maximise their profits which in the current climate means the small operator gets squeezed out.

Vito's is to be replaced by another coffee shop apparently, and I am surprised that all the current coffee shops can survive because stats' show that coffee consumption is stable/dropping.

The exodus from north of the river to this area has propelled house prices and the surrounding costs to businesses. All we can do, if you want any business to survive, is to support them with our custom. Even that may not halt 'progress'.
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Postby juliantenniscoach » Wed Apr 08, 2015 12:32 pm

"Let's not have a fight guys - there are obviously different experiences and views about the history of the area." 100%
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Postby actuallyadad » Wed Apr 08, 2015 3:41 pm

part of this is the fact that news papers and magazines are generally in decline, so there's less need for new agents.

What surprises me is that there are so many estate agents shops around. Given that property is advertised on websites I don't know why they have shops on the high street. Certainly I never went into the agent's shop on Northcote road when I bought my house BTC. It's a shame as they make a dull high street.

Generally though, there's no point moaning about places changing. That's what happens. It's a function of demand. And - to be controversial- I must admit that I have used the posh biscuit shop and brioche shop more than the pet shop, and I quite like living somewhere where there are smart shops! I can't be the only person who thinks that otherwise how to they survive? (I don't eat that much brioche....!)

***putting on tin hat for abuse about being an elitist fat cat new comer etc etc (probably from people who have lived in the area for ages and so been the biggest winners with the house price gains gentrification has brought)***
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Postby Moop » Wed Apr 08, 2015 4:14 pm

Sheesh! Calm down! I was just relaying my point of view. Not trying to have a bun fight. Let's leave it there and get back to the original post which is very sad news about 2 loved institutions.
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Postby BTCdad » Wed Apr 08, 2015 4:21 pm

I really miss Paul. Much preferred it to Gail's, which is chaos most of the time.
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