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Postby danijeanne » Mon Jan 04, 2016 7:49 am

We went through exactly the same thing with my son who is now in Year 2. He used to throw his book and say I am rubbish I can t do it and run off it was hard to get him to do any reading but we kept on and did smaller amounts each day. When he became frustrated I decided it was not productive to push him and carry on, but try a little bit in the morning and then a little bit each night, it helped by asking him to read books to his sister, so that may help if he has a sibling?

But to be honest in the end it was just a phase and he now wants to read all the time now he has his confidence. Some are more sensitive and really find it hard they are not just brilliant at things straight away they'd get so frustrated and it puts them off. Well that's my thoughts anyway.

I am sure you will get through it shortly but also great idea for a fun learning session!

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Postby mammarosa » Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:39 am

Hi,
Your son is 6 years old, relax a little bit and don't force him to read, write and do homework. he is obviously not mature enough, and trust me it will 'kick in' when he is ready !

My son. youngest in his class, also struggled with reading and homework in Year 1, he had no interest at all, he just wanted to play, but is now enjoying reading etc more as he seemed to have matured a little bit and have an excellent teacher supporting him.

Putting pressure on too early will just end up in resentment and it is proven that children that are allowed to learn in their own time will benefit more and enjoy their learning in later life.

Perhaps there is a reason why countries leading in education such as Finland, Sweden etc start school only at 7?
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Postby sw11_ » Mon Jan 04, 2016 12:48 pm

Just a thought but have you had his eyes tested recently? Our daughter used to hate self led reading etc but we recently found out that she needs glasses for reading (she is long sighted) and since she got her glasses she has totally transformed with regards to school work. I guess we now realise why she used to find it so frustrating - it makes sense considering that it would have been very hard work and tiring to focus on the page.
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Re: Extra support for our 6 year old. Please help

Postby Fernando » Mon Jan 04, 2016 2:53 pm

If I were you, I would decide whether you think he is just young for the year/immature/lacking confidence etc, or whether you think he might have a learning difficulty. You can ask school whether he is showing any signs (eg reversals, problems writing letters and with phonics, etc), and what he is finding hard in maths.

If you suspect there is a possiblity he is dyslexic or some other problem, then I would treat him as if he is as the sooner he gets help, the less the impact.

Getting ears and eyes checked are also a good idea.

Re maths, buy some Dienes Blocks and some Numicon for counting. Teach him to recognise numbers to 12 as patterns (as per Numicon), and then teach all the number bonds systematically, starting at 3 upto 10 and beyond - the patterns aid this. Also check out Utube videos for Singapore maths, which teaches maths using modelling. It really help with making maths fun and tangible.

Good luck!
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Re: Extra support for our 6 year old. Please help

Postby broodje » Mon Jan 04, 2016 6:49 pm

Generally speaking, Yr 1 is too young to judge if there is a underlying problem or if it's purely maturity related.

Is you child a summer born? That alone could account for a lot - at that age a few months make a massive difference with regards to maturity. In most European countries, kids aren't even at school at this age. Many are just not ready/interested developmentally and expectations are too high for such young children.

That said, if there are physical problems like eyesight or hearing (e.g. glue ear), things will get worse if not addressed. So it would be very wise to eliminate that as the first step.

With regards to the rest, is he generally doing OK developmentally? E.g. can he concentrate on a task that interests him (i.e. not school work) or does he get distracted easily? How is his speech and verbal comprehension (i.e. non written)? Can he follow multi-step instructions? Is his vocabulary vivid and well-developed? Can he retell stories/tell you about something that happened in a coherent fashion? Is he generally alert/interested/intelligent? Does he like logic puzzles/problem-solving (i.e. not maths worksheets)? If all of the above checks out, I would say you can safely assume that his maths and reading difficulties are a maturity thing and you can afford to wait until at least mid-year 2 (having eliminated physical issues) before getting worried/getting EdPsych report done.

If things don't improve by mid-year 2, I would do an assessment by a good EdPsych to make sure there are no issues such as dyslexia/working memory/processing issues etc. Mid-year 2 is not too late even if an assessment reveals issues, you'll have plenty of time to resolve things before secondary.

Even if a report doesn't show issues you'll know where he stands on the IQ scale and you'll know what your starting point is.

Regardless of the outcome though, approach suggested by Fernando is the right one. Regardless of the diagnosis (or lack thereof), remedial actions are the same. Lots of on going, well-structure, little and often support using multi-sensory methods. It's hard work and you just have to make time for it and this work every time. I am afraid it's difficult to outsource unless you can shell out thousands for various (well-qualified!) tutors to come in 3-4 times a week. I am afraid one hour per week to do "fun" school work won't work - neither for resolving maturity issues nor more serious ones (if any).

There are plenty of resources to make things fun and multisensory (http://www.ldalearning.com for example), tips on Internet, Mumsnet and this forum. It's just a lot of hard work and not a quick fix.
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Re: Extra support for our 6 year old. Please help

Postby Mrsmac35 » Mon Jan 04, 2016 7:59 pm

Hi,

I am so sorry to hear your son is finding school so difficult. I am a year 2 teacher, currently on maternity leave and tutoring key stage 1 children from my own home on Saturday mornings. It may be a little early to consider individual tutoring, but I am very happy to chat to you about the problems he is having and little things you could do to help at home. I have fifteen years experience in key stage 1 classrooms and have a wealth of experience dealing with children with many different challenges towards learning. Hopefully I might be able to alleviate some of your worries too! Please do feel free to give me a call anytime on 07790330220, or email me sonya.mclernon@gmail.com
I really hope things get a little easier for you,
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Re: Extra support for our 6 year old. Please help

Postby Fernando » Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:52 pm

I have just read your post that your partner and brother are both severely dyslexic - dyslexia is genetic and I really would act now if I were you. Teachers hate to talk about dyslexia early on, as schools won't assess children until aged 8 because for some children the problem will be developmental, but the sooner he gets help the better and the help can't hurt him.

Toe by Toe (phonics) and the Power of 1 (maths) take you from scratch and ensure your child is taught systematically each day, and will allow you to help your child at home. I know a lot of people who swear by these books. They allow the child to practice untl the knowledge is secure and have good instructions to allow a parent or helper to supervise correctly - they are really good. It worth throwing good rewards at these exercises as a sweetener, especially at the beginning until the routine is established and he can see how the extra work is helping him. Keep the sessions short with loads of praise.

Another teaching programme which is really good is Reading Reflex which teaches all 44 sounds in English. Eg the 'ou' sound could be taught using 'get out now!' at bath time and you could drop foam letters in the bath and he could stick them on the tiles, or you could put an 'out' on the door to practice every time you leave the house - just be imaginative to make it fun. The Spellzone website gives different options in lists for spelling each sound - eg search 'ou sound', but don't go ahead of what they are teaching at school. Choose easy words for each option so his confidence increases.

Hope that helps. I have dyslexic kids myself so know how important it is to act early.
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Postby thepropertyguru » Thu Apr 14, 2016 2:38 pm

Rowena Edington based in Wandsworth is fantastic, she used to head up the learning support unit at Northcote Lodge - here's here website:

http://www.learnability.co.uk

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Postby bangmyheadonthewall » Fri Apr 15, 2016 12:18 pm

Sorry for starting a new post - for some reason I was logged out when posting a reply to to the original thread.

To the mum of a 6 year-old having trouble with school work.

I think that home support is a great idea. Try to make it a team work with your son, ie agreeing with him on which days of the week he'd have a go at reading, creating a routine he has decided with you, rather than being imposed (like at school).
Ask him what would make him feel good, what he'd deserve after making such an effort. It could be a sweet, a walk to the park, something he likes. Then stick to the routine, it's a 'deal', make him read only small amounts at once, perhaps just one page for a while and give him the treat at the end, each time. Teach him how to manage his frustration, ie having a sip of water, take a deep breath and try again reminding him how good he's doing at trying. On days he refuses, encourage but don't force. Keep the treat for the next time...It might work. That way he knows that you appreciate his effort and that he is good at it because he gets rewards, while you can hopefully get a routine in place.

It's great that he likes books (as when you read at bedtime). Ask him a few questions about the story when you read to him. He might not have the confidence to read but he might already have a good understanding. Other children can read early but then they don't really understand what they are reading (I had a child like that), which is a problem later on.

Don't dispair, they all catch up in Y3. You'll be surprised! Maybe he's not ready because he is still learning to cope with primary aspects of school (the schedules, the rules, sitting down listening, staying indoors, long hours, fast canteen, friendships, using the loos, etc, not all so fun at that age)? I'm saying this because to be able to enjoy learningn one has to be happy and settled in the school and that takes time for some children, which is fine but difficult for them.

Y1 is quite hard. Less playing. Are you sure the extra support is not too heavy on your son? Schools use those to maximise results but remember it's not always suitable and unhealthy side effects of competition between schools. Some children feel sad being taken away from their peers into support groups and some are made to feel different when that happens. Extra support is 'extra' work, it is more scrutiny and it can make a child feel under pressure, more tired and less willing to learn as a result. If you think that might be the case ask the school to stop the extra support. The fact is that your son is rejecting school books and that tells there is something wrong with their methods. You are able to give him support at home that is tailored to his natural pace and is gentle, and that will definitely have a greater impact on him where he would not need the school's extra support.

If in doubt, make an appointment for your son with your GP or a paediatrician. Bring the support plan (SEN?) that the school has drawn for him (the teacher will give you a copy on request). Discuss it, how many times a week does he go into support groups? Does he really need it? Is it suitable for his nature? Is it worth investigating, checking his ears, eyes, iron etc? Your consultant will tell you.

ONe last word: you are doing the best for your son. I know because he so enjoys when you read to him. So don't beat yourself up! By reading you I think that your son may need to be allowed to learn at his own pace, or they may be making him too tired and stressed at school or a bit of both.
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Postby Toks » Mon Apr 18, 2016 6:44 am

Great responses, not much to add to but try comic books. Boys mature at varying levels and sometimes are too active to want to 'work' through so many words on a page. He is still young and will pick up as he gets older. I also note the comments on dyslexia and the suggestion to act now, which is valid. I've been there with my sons and marvel comics converted them to avid readers, they later were unable to put down novels.
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Postby WWorthMum » Mon Apr 18, 2016 9:22 am

One of my best friends has a six year old daughter who struggled with school/reading/general academia. She bought a reading toolkit from readingrevival.com and it helped enormously. It was easy to use and her daughter improved dramatically, even going top of the class for reading and her other studies improved as a result. She gives it a big thumbs up so may be worth a look? x
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