Mother attacked for Rolex as her children run screaming for help Post Reply

[Star]

https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... risk-gangs

[parsleysong]

Too many people here covering up and making excuses for the scums who attacked that woman: "poverty", not enough youth clubs, women wearing expensive jewellery... The suspects in the cctv dont look so poor they had no choice and they are too old for youth clubs. Genuinely poor people don't typically go out and commit aggravated robbery. We definitely need to keep our wits about us but we are not in the 80s Bronx so let's stop being all Guardian namby pamby and making excuse for these disgusting men.

[rooting4tooting]

Lets not forget that many of the robberies are as part of serious organised crime.
The school pick up drop off version MO has a spotter, usually the organiser/boss looking for targets and will contact the moped gangs with precise details. The items are stolen, the thieves are paid and the items fenced through networks
All expensive items of jewellery or bags etc are serial numbered and usually registered meaning they have to be fenced abroad where fewer questions are asked.
They can't be legally sold here in any way because as soon as a service or battery replacement is carried out the item should come up as stolen if the robbed individuals and insurance companies are updating the manufacturer databases.

And just like UK living Indian women back in the 1980s learned... don't wear the real stuff in the street...

[Star]

I'm sorry but what is "namby pamby" about what I posted? do you suggest I get my news from Breibart???
I wasn't excusing any crime I just abhor the complacency of people here ( oh look at my cheap council tax, I'm so smug I can afford a rolex) who don't hold the politicians to account for their policies towards those in wider society. It's care less and undone so much good work that has been done for the working class black community over the decades

I have looked at some of the posts more closely in this thread and there seems to be a lot of casual racism in this so called community. I'm pretty sure none of you know any black people let alone what life is like in an estate. Shame on you.

[parsleysong]

I've sat in the Abbeville pub (next to where this took place in case you don't know the area) and heard young black men referring to women as "bitches" in a categorical way. Fact. The misogyny of young black men is a well known problem that even the Guardian must have reported. Stop making excuses for these scums and insulting people who don't see their behaviour as excusable. Their crime was racist and class-ist against the victims.

[JGB]

Shocking and the police told me that they are powerless to stop this crime as their numbers are constantly reducing/not many are allowed to chase then when they get away on scooters.

Sadiq Khan cant possible be voted back in with this crime wave, nothing is improving - what is he doing ?? 

I am not sure what camera it is, but the Amazon Blink camera range are meant to be good, they have indoor and outdoor cameras

While I fully agree that this is really shocking, I'm afraid that blaming Sadiq Khan seems rather naively simple. This is a governmental issue linked to police numbers, methods of tackling this kind of crime, including restrictions and laws on pursuing muggers on mopeds, and then really, at root source, the reasons for such types of crime. With all the will in the world the Mayor cannot either be held responsible, or wave a magic wand to suddenly stop it. 
 

[JGB]

Why are some people on here assuming that poverty as the reason this happened and thereby giving them some sense of justification? I don't see it like that at all. Nobody in the UK is that poor! 

I totally agree - that there is no justification for this level of violence, ever. It goes against everything that makes us human.  But I must disagree with you about levels of poverty in the UK. I have spent a few months this year in Neath and Sandfields in South Wales, and people there are that poor -at levels we would not deem possible in such a developed and wealthy country. The people I have met live in beleaguered communities and there is very little for them to hope for, never mind afford. There is a common misconception around poverty in this country. I invite any member of the government to go and see for themselves what broken communities are going through up and down the country and why cuts to services, centres, retraining and industry have created a social vacuum.