normangiles wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 9:16 am
Yes that £1 extra they 'get' for a few hours a week will really set them up for life and make up for a prestigious education, lucrative fulfilling career and life opportunities that junior Doctors will go on to enjoy.
How dare cleaners earn a living wage! They should do it for free for condescending people like you, shouldn't they.
dudette wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 9:31 amnormangiles wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 9:16 am
Yes that £1 extra they 'get' for a few hours a week will really set them up for life and make up for a prestigious education, lucrative fulfilling career and life opportunities that junior Doctors will go on to enjoy.
How dare cleaners earn a living wage! They should do it for free for condescending people like you, shouldn't they.
Not being condescending at all. I was actually making the point that junior doctors are vastly underpaid, not that cleaners are overpaid. Of course cleaners should earn a decent wage but they have not spent years training, accruing vast debts and then doing a job that literally involves holding people’s lives in their hands for far longer hours than cleaners or pretty much anyone else. But hey what do you care that our junior doctors are all going to Australia where they are paid more for fewer hours? As long as you have your house nice and clean that’s all we should worry about.
normangiles wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 9:47 amdudette wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 9:31 amnormangiles wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 9:16 am
Yes that £1 extra they 'get' for a few hours a week will really set them up for life and make up for a prestigious education, lucrative fulfilling career and life opportunities that junior Doctors will go on to enjoy.
How dare cleaners earn a living wage! They should do it for free for condescending people like you, shouldn't they.
Not being condescending at all. I was actually making the point that junior doctors are vastly underpaid, not that cleaners are overpaid. Of course cleaners should earn a decent wage but they have not spent years training, accruing vast debts and then doing a job that literally involves holding people’s lives in their hands for far longer hours than cleaners or pretty much anyone else. But hey what do you care that our junior doctors are all going to Australia where they are paid more for fewer hours? As long as you have your house nice and clean that’s all we should worry about.
No, that wasn't the point you were making at all.
Also, please don't assume I feel junior Doctors aren't underpaid - crass assumption you've come up with and countered with to excuse your original comment. They are underpaid BUT it is a very temporary part of their life, one which I think all the same, they should be better paid.
You may not feel cleaners aren't 'important' people compared to Doctors. As mentioned, the duties and responsibilities Doctors have are very fully rewarded in general. Junior Doctors at least can look forward to that and not having to be a cleaner for people like you, that view them as you do - pointing out on social media they 'get' £1 more than junior Doctors.
Did you just assume my gender? I am a woman.dudette wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 10:28 amnormangiles wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 9:47 amdudette wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 9:31 am
Not being condescending at all. I was actually making the point that junior doctors are vastly underpaid, not that cleaners are overpaid. Of course cleaners should earn a decent wage but they have not spent years training, accruing vast debts and then doing a job that literally involves holding people’s lives in their hands for far longer hours than cleaners or pretty much anyone else. But hey what do you care that our junior doctors are all going to Australia where they are paid more for fewer hours? As long as you have your house nice and clean that’s all we should worry about.
No, that wasn't the point you were making at all.
Also, please don't assume I feel junior Doctors aren't underpaid - crass assumption you've come up with and countered with to excuse your original comment. They are underpaid BUT it is a very temporary part of their life, one which I think all the same, they should be better paid.
You may not feel cleaners aren't 'important' people compared to Doctors. As mentioned, the duties and responsibilities Doctors have are very fully rewarded in general. Junior Doctors at least can look forward to that and not having to be a cleaner for people like you, that view them as you do - pointing out on social media they 'get' £1 more than junior Doctors.
I love the fact you are telling me what I was thinking when I wrote my original post. Mansplaining at its finest! Of course doctors are more important than cleaners (or if you like doctors’ work is more important than cleaners’ work and I’m talking about domestic cleaners, not the even more underpaid hospital cleaners.) Doctors save people’s lives and cleaners do the work middle class people can’t be bothered to do. And given how hard it is to get into medical school, most doctors are consistently underpaid throughout their careers compared to what they could have earned had they taken a lucrative job in the City Instead. I had a friend a few years ago who was a junior doctor - she has to pay to work. Her childcare cost more than she earned.