Springfield Hospital Development - eating the Common?

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Springfield Hospital Development - eating the Common?

Postby tooposhtopush » Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:00 am

Hello
I am not usually an eco warrior but I am a little concerned about what I am hearing about the new development around Springfield Hospital.

One of the posters here has said that some of the Common around Trinity Road and Burntwood Lane will be lost, is that really the case?

Does anybody know for certain?

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Re: Springfield Hospital Development - eating the Common?

Postby BalhamMumWorkingFT » Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:00 am

Check the wandsworth planning site to find out. They will give you the name of the company involved, plans, etc.

I am sure any development will contain houses...
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Re: Springfield Hospital Development - eating the Common?

Postby nvnfriend » Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:38 pm

Hi...

there are references to 'Metropolitan Open Land' in the plans; this covers, for example, the golf course and relevant to this post, a slice of Wandsworth Common, to be used accommodate additional traffic during and after the development.

See http://www.savewandsworthmol.co.uk/ as one example of interpretations of the plans - unfortunately the link through to the specific document isnt working, although other documents contain similar comments:

http://www.springfieldhospitalappeal.co ... oce214.pdf (page 5)

http://www.springfieldhospitalappeal.co ... oce301.pdf (page 19)

Note that all of this is quite old now, and the plans for the site themselves keep being revised.
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Re: Springfield Hospital Development - eating the Common?

Postby rugby » Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:48 pm

The Hospital plans to build houses and convert the old buildings to fund the building of a new hospital.

THis development does not significantly impact the open space or MOL on the site.

TFL plan to enlarge the junction at Trinity/Bellevue/Burntwood to provide increased traffic flow. 'Eating the Common' might be considered to be an exaggeration!

The second version of the plan is currently under appeal, result expected shortly.
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Postby jtn » Sat May 05, 2012 3:58 pm

so SAD if it gets approved -

I think they are going to get rid of the golf course (only pay and play one in inner london) - and in year of the Olympics.

And build 600 + flats etc. The traffic is SO bad round there already......
It will be a joke if it is approved.

............Let alone more pressure on primary schools!

They didn't release decision on this incase it interferred with elections........... I think this suggests it is going to get the go ahead...............

Yes - the mental health users might need new facilities - but really what about the mental health of local people trying to drive down trinity road to take their kids to school - as no spaces in the local ones!!!
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Re: Springfield Hospital Development - eating the Common?

Postby rugby » Fri Jun 22, 2012 7:30 am

The redevelopment of Springfield Hospital will also provide some very significant positives!

1. New modern mental health facilities allowing our medics to serve us better

2. Wonderful new houses in a fantastic parkland setting, both for the wealthy and affordable housing

3. Securing of a massive and beautiful heritage building which is currently slowly decaying and falling down

4. A lot of heritage appartments in a beautiful parkland setting

5. A new 23 acre public park and gardens, for simple relaxation in a gorgeous environment, but also planned to have lots of new community sports facilities for team and individual exercise and enjoyment - Springfield Community Sports Partnership

A massive reversal of the current decay and under-use of the stunningly beautiful site.

Contrast this with the 1000 apartments built slap bang in front of this heritage building by Bellway, with few objections to planning!

The Springfield Development is a fantastic community opportunity and the Trust are a VERY benevolent developer compared to others who might have acquired the site for development if the NHS Trust can't continue to run a hospital there!!

Let's get positive, it will be a great addition to Wandsworth, a wonderful set of modern new facilities for the community.

A fantastic compliment to the philanthropic (if possibly mis-guided) Victorians who built it.
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Re: Springfield Hospital Development - eating the Common?

Postby tamara » Fri Jun 22, 2012 9:24 am

What will this mean in turns of disruption and traffic?
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Postby tbx1972 » Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:50 am

To the last poster who thinks it will be a great addition...... obviously was not part of the 4,000+ local residents together with various counsellors and MPs who objected offically to the proposals. The fact that Trinity Road and Burntwood Lane are already 2 of the most congested roads in the UK and the introduction of another 3/4000 residents is not thought by the developers to 'impact' the area significantly is a farce! As for getting on a train at Earlsfield in the mornings, it will be more of a mare than it is currently! Thankfully there were plans in the original submission to build a new primary school as part of the development as the current infrastructure cannot cope - let's hope that its still in there and has been approved. But hey, who are we?.... just the local residents whose house prices could be affected by all the extra traffic! Am really not looking forward to the next few years of lorries, dirt and dust!
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Postby jtn » Wed Jul 04, 2012 11:17 am

In reply to the positive poster.

Congestion in Trinity Road, Belleview Road, Glenburnie Road, Tooting Bec etc…

1. Agreed Springfield needs upgrading for patients.
2. The site could be secured without totally overbuilding on it.
3. It is not a ‘new park and gardens’ – people can already walk around the site.
4. If the developers were interested in ‘community sports’ why didn’t they keep the golf? In reality apartment owners are hardly likely to want hordes of locals running around next to their properties.

5. Yes this land belongs to the Trust – but it also belongs to the public who pay their taxes. Therefore the public should have a say in what happens to this site. It is a one-off chance to develop
the land for the good of everyone, rather than allowing a quick profit for
private developers. I would like to know how many millions the developers will be making flogging 600 flats next to tooting bec tube?

And all at the expense of increased traffic all around Belleview road/tooting bec etc
I think it is an insult to the philanthropic Victorians to overbuild on this site and degrade the surrounding areas with more and more traffic.

It also goes against the council’s own planning and transport regs:- (see below taken from Fircroft school objection letter).
Application is not related to the environmental capacity and the capacity of public transport and other infrastructure resulting in a failure of the application to abide by policy GEN 2 of Wandsworth Borough Council’s UDP. Local roads and the public transport system are at or near capacity. Therefore the application does not comply with Policy T1 and Policy T2. The density of the proposals is not in keeping with the surrounding area and consequently the application does not comply with Policy TBE5. Removal of golf centre – does not adhere to policy GEN20 and Policy LR2. Proposals do not abide by the local planning policy (UDP), regional policy (London Plan) and national planning policy (PPS/PPG). [/i
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Re: Springfield Hospital Development - eating the Common?

Postby rugby » Thu Aug 30, 2012 6:41 pm

I am not actually totally for the development, I just think it is worth looking at the positives as well as the negatives.

The Wandsworth Planners recommended that the current plans should be accepted, ie they deemed them within all planning policies, the planning committee then over-turned their recommendation and rejected the application. The planning inspector then listened to all the argument, considered the adherence to ALL policies and recommended the appeal be passed - it has been. Hopefully the trust will not sue Wandsworth for their appeal costs (it has just happened elsewhere!)

As sports clubs, we are simply looking to the sporting future and trying to ensure that the land, having been closed to golf, will be reused in the best interests of the sporting and local community. If you have a specific sporting or leisure interest and would like specific facilities, please message me and let me know some detail.
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Re: Springfield Hospital Development - eating the Common?

Postby KatherineHepburn » Thu Oct 03, 2013 11:47 pm

Does anyone know what is now happening with this development?
Thanks.
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