School start for children born in october?

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School start for children born in october?

Postby Fergie1 » Sun Oct 13, 2013 8:25 pm

Hello,

My 3 year old son's birthday is beginning of october. I find it is a shame he looses a whole year of being at school because he wasn't 4 years old at the beginning of the term in september.

Has anyone else had this problem? Has your child had to start school at 4 years old + 11 months?

I live between Belleville and Honeywell school, does anyone know their policy on the matter?

Im not a pushy mum, I just think that for 1 month it is a shame and is going to cost a fortune in unnecessary child care, how have you other mums handled this situation?

Thanks a lot,

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Postby Evergreen » Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:13 pm

Why do you feel this is a problem?
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Postby peppermint » Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:25 pm

My son is early October too. A year difference in the young age is very noticeable. If your son is over a year younger than his classmates, he might often find himself a bit behind the rest of his class. He will have to try so much harder than others. This could be dispiriting for a boy, and he might get this idea fixed in his head that he is not succeeding, and he is always "the little one". Do you really want that for him? I am not talking about academic achievements so much, but rather 'social maturity'. Maybe your boy is advanced for his age and it will be easy for him to keep up with his older kids. You know him better. I am talking from my experience. I would rather send him with his age group, where he can be a confident member of the class.
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Postby mummy_dani » Sun Oct 13, 2013 10:32 pm

My son turns 4 in the november and I'm really pleased he missed school entry in the September by a couple of months as I think he'd be too young. When he starts school he'll be almost 5 and I think much more ready for it and I'm really surprised by your thoughts on it.
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Postby pitta patta » Sun Oct 13, 2013 10:51 pm

I don't see the problem here. My daughter was born early September and missed the intake by just 2 weeks, I know another parent of a child born on 2nd September and had to wait til the following year before starting school. Another year of free play/ nursery/ home nurturing has done her no harm at all. Being one of the eldest in the class is a great bonus for her. I would much rather it that way round than her being the youngest as with summer born children.
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Postby Fergie1 » Sun Oct 13, 2013 11:09 pm

I am not saying it is a problem (!), Im just wondering what other mums position on the matter was.
I started school when I was barely 4 and did very well.
I love having my son at home but I also think that him starting school would make him happy and be a good thing, and in that case I dont see why he would spend another year with a nanny when he could be with other children having fun in a nice school.
But its also true I dont know how he will be in 1 years time hence me enquiring today. A few mum's here have said that their children weren't quite ready, thats good to know. I shall wait and see.

I appreciate all your responses.

Good evening

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Postby nvmof3 » Sun Oct 13, 2013 11:20 pm

Why don't you send him to nursery? Both Honeywell and Belleville have excellent nurseries and you can usually get a full day if both parents work. It is from the September after their 3rd birthday.
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Postby Fergie1 » Sun Oct 13, 2013 11:25 pm

Yes I was going to do that for this year. I was just thinking ahead for next year.. Just wondering how it all worked.

Anyway thanks !

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Postby nvmof3 » Sun Oct 13, 2013 11:41 pm

I have two kids born in late summer and one born in early winter and school has been a much easier ride academically and socially for my winter child. Believe me, you will be glad to have one of the older children in the class as they just find so many things easier. Enjoy the extra time you have with him. It is something the parents of August babies wish they could have had.
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Postby ellesmum » Mon Oct 14, 2013 12:24 am

I wholeheartedly agree with Petal - 110%! I have a late summer child who has just started Year 1 and we are facing a bit of a battle to make them relax and NOT push her, which the teachers are all actually in agreement about, but the idiots in Government just don't seem to realise what we, as parents, DO know: just turned 5 is too young to be in "proper" education (i.e. national curriculum)! School is a great place for them to be, socially, there's no doubt, and my daughter is far more mature than her contemporaries who are just a few weeks younger and have just started reception, but a kindergarten model would show far more success in improving standards than constant assessment and tests for such small children in my opinion. My little girl is struggling with reading, struggling with writing, but she has an amazing imagination and her maths skills shocked her teachers. We are not pushing her at home, and we are not worried if she is classed as "below average" purely because she is "below average" age wise at the moment, too, and we would rather gently encourage her to find her own way! Do not place your child in the position of being the youngest in his or her class when he or she does not need to be - it will create far more problems than it will solve! If I could have held my daughter back to be the oldest in the year below, I possibly would have done. I think she would have benefitted hugely from another 6 months of reception. Let your child be a child. He will learn far more from poking around in mud, splashing in puddles and playing than he would from a book in a classroom.
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Postby abbevillemum » Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:15 am

My eldest daughter was born early September so had to wait another year before most of her little friends started school, so I too was upset for my daughter to be left behind. But she made lots of other friends and has been the top of her class ever since due to the fact that she is nearly a year older than some of the other children. Being one of the oldest has been great for her confidence and anyway, I agree with previous posters and think four is too young. Be happy that you get out of all the manic school runs and all the extra work you have once they start school and just enjoy having your little one at home for a bit longer.
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Postby runningmummy » Mon Oct 14, 2013 9:35 am

I think it is perhaps best to wait for the following year as would be v young for year if skipped a year and I am quite certain you wouldn't be allowed to do that anyway. I would recommend you Put your child in a good nursery until then which is quite similar anyway. I am really surprised that some mums find formal learning at 4/5 difficult for children. My child absolutely loves the learning from age 4. I assumed all children did so I guess that is an eye opener for me. It is true that children in Europe and America start "school " at 7 but they go to kindergarten type school before which is basically the same as the UK formal school here as they are in a learning environment.
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Postby ellesmum » Tue Oct 15, 2013 1:36 am

Petal - we are most certainly not alone! I have spoken to numerous mums recently who feel exactly the same. I know my child is not failing because she can't read or write at 5 years and 2 months old, and I have complete faith in her and her abilities regardless. She is a bright child who asks loads of questions (too many questions sometimes!), loves books, has a HUGE imagination, and has written several of her own books (well, dictated, obviously!) already...why should I worry?! Yes, her writing is abysmal, yes, she sounds out "f", "r', "o", "g" and still thinks it says "ship", but so what?! I know she will not leave school unable to read or write because we will not allow it to get to that stage, and I know her natural curiosity will win out soon enough and it will be like flicking a light switch. I am more concerned about nurturing her imagination and her desire to create and innovate. The reading and writing can be taught, imagination can not. I think it's a far more important quality to support, personally, but I am not sure whether our schools do that enough. Although I am sure that the teachers would like to if they had the opportunity to say "screw the targets!". Being successful isn't just about academic ability, and exam results are not the be all and end all. They help, but are they always essential? My "failure" friends who are now far more successful than me suggest otherwise!
School, and getting in as early as possible, is not always a good thing. Personally, I was put into school early (well, kindergarten, because I moved from the English system to the Canadian system at almost 5), but I instinctively felt like a bit of the odd one out. Ultimately, it didn't do me any harm and I think I benefitted a great deal from having 2 years in the kindergarten system before coming back here and entering English education in what would now be Year 2. I don't remember being behind, I could read and write, and I was also fluent in French. I lost the French because, instead of nurturing the ability to soak languages up like a sponge at that age, they didn't start teaching foreign languages until about 12 here. Too late. The English system is so incredibly flawed. It fights the natural timetable of abilities, doesn't support it!
And now, I shall jump down from my soap box!!! ;)
Basically, Fergie, as you can see from those of us with late-borns, a lot of us are struggling. Your son may only be 6 weeks or so younger than the youngest, but he will also be almost 14 months younger than the eldest. Think how huge the difference is between a newborn and a 14 month old,and that gap doesn't close in only 4 years! My child didn't even exist as an embryo when some of her classmates had learned to sit up, and she was mastering holding her head up whilst her friends were walking and talking. It's a big gap even now, and even at this age, a lot of development can happen in 6 weeks! Your son is in a great position to be a leader and an inspiration to the children younger than him, capitalise on that!
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