3 months old refusing bottle- any idea what to do?

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3 months old refusing bottle- any idea what to do?

Postby fiiisaaa » Mon Dec 10, 2012 3:39 pm

My 3 months old daughter is not drinking properly for 2 weeks now
She was never breastfed.She has got used to drink formula very easily but now without reason drinks very little.2-3 oz within 5 hours and have to force her.I keep trying to give her bottle every 2 hours but she gets mad and screams and she is more interested in looking around and playing with a bottle.
I keep waking her up during the night otherwise she would be sleeping all night long
I took her to a GP and he said its odd and she seems to be fine even if she is slightly underweight.I have changed formula but no improvement at all.
Couple of weeks ago she has got flu and vaccination so obviously she was refusing bottle and was hoping she is gonna catch up her appetite soon but it is getting worse.
Does any one have the same experience or any advise how to deal with this problem? its very frustrating.Many thanks
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Postby Mrs Contractor Mum » Mon Dec 10, 2012 4:42 pm

Not my area of expertise by any shot but have you tried her on cooled down boiled water only? It may help determine if the issue is the formula or the bottle. Also, has she suffered from reflux/ colic at all as sometimes it could be an indicator to milk intolerance? If its the bottle, I think I've seen on these pages before where NUK was recommended.

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Postby Aida » Mon Dec 10, 2012 9:44 pm

Hi I had a similar problem the only difference was that my son was breastfed. He took the bottle at the same time as being breastfed but started refusing it at 4months
I tried beaker, nuk bottles and then it worked with playtex drop-in bottles
I have two boxes of unused bottle liners and unused teats if yu want to try them
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Postby Aida » Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:01 pm

Sorry forgot the link to the nursery bottles
http://www.playtexbaby.com/mobile/Bottles/Dropins
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Postby fiiisaaa » Mon Dec 10, 2012 11:23 pm

Hi, thank you both for your response
I would like to try those bottles.Would do anything for my daughter to drink properly
Do those liners and teats fit in every bottle or just need to buy bottle separately?
How much would u ask for liners and teats?Thank you for your reply
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Postby NovaLi » Tue Dec 11, 2012 10:33 am

Hi, I'm a maternity nurse, here are a few ideas!

1, It is great that you are offering her feeds often, especially since she is slightly underweight. But it might just be the case that she is not taking the bottle as she is not hungry enough to be keen to take the bottle. Try leaving 3.5-4 hours in between feeds and see if she is more likely to feed from the bottle when she is really hungry. I of course don't mean to leave her starving in any way, but you see my thought!

Definitely keep waking her up in the night for feeds- only because she is underwieight! Might be tempting to think you are lucky to har a great sleeper, but you are doing the right thing by waking her up!

2, Are you using the same teats as before? Time to switch up, try a 2 or even level 3 teat so she gets some milk as soon as the teat touches her lips and gives her a taste of the milk before having to make the decision to suck, getting a taste of the milk might help her give it a go.

3, Try pin down what's really the problem. Put your clean index finger in the corner of her mouth. If she turns quickly towards your finger, and does the same on the other side when you switch side, she is clearly rooting and definitely hungry. If she now is not taking the bottle, it's bottle refusal as there is lots of things you can try. Definitely try the NUK bottles that are great, remember to try the no 2 and 3 teats as well. When you start of with these, only tilt the bottle just so the milk is filling the tip of the teat and not more, even if the milk flows easier with a size 2 or 3 teat we still want her to suckle and for the milk not to gush into her little mouth. If she is not turning her head towards your finger, she is not hungry yet! Wait another 30 min before you try again. Always start by checking this way if she is actually hungry before you place the bottle on her lips.

4, try feeding her when she's asleep/ sleepy from waking from a nap, and not before a nap when lots of babies are v sensitive. Many babies care less about what bottle they are offered when they just has a good rest and still sleepy. Worth a try!

5, Check the milks temperature and try different temps. She might have had a change of preference? She might have preferred her milk luke warm, but now more likes warm- try! Also, when feeding time is not going great and is a it dragged out the milk obviously go cold. If you don't want to reheat, put 20-30 ml in 3 different bottles and heat as you keep trying!

6, Ask for help! Maybe granny or a friend can try feed her if feeding time is nowadays quite a stressful time for both you and your baby. You might both think 'oh no here we go again'... Do ask if you have someone happy to help around you!

Wishing you best of luck! Keep trying!

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Hanna
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Postby Aida » Wed Dec 12, 2012 6:28 am

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Postby Htheh » Wed Dec 12, 2012 8:41 am

My son did this at 3 months and my daughter a bit earlier, for them it was due to dairy/soya intolerance and only escalated until diagnosed and put on Neocate a non dairy formula. My son took months to diagnose, as he was happy and sleeping, not being sick etc. but just screamed whenever a bottle came near him. I tried everything, the best thing was feeding him in his sleep, he had his biggest feed at 10.30pm! Eventually I took him to a Paedatrician and he was diagnosed with severe silent reflux due to CMSPI and at 7 months he was put on Neocate and almost overnight started drinking again and gaining weight, it was a miracle. With my daughter I knew the signs to look out for and hers manifested itself much earlier and her reflux was anything but 'silent'!! So it was quicker and easier to get diagnosed but much trickier to treat.
This might not be what is happening to your baby, but it sounds so familiar to me, and I wish Imhad known more with my son as he went through months of unnecessary pain/starvation! It might be worth investigating? Sorry for long post! Good Luck.
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Postby fiiisaaa » Wed Dec 12, 2012 1:10 pm

Thank you all for your advise.I very appreciate it!
I fell better knowing its not only my problem and unfortunately my partner is not supportive because he does not see any problem if our daughter is happy and very alert but he must be blind not seeing how skinny our little one is and doctors and health visitors are not helpful at all.
I bought that NUK bottles and teats and I can see small improvement.My daughter drank very well during the night between 5 and 6 oz but still struggling during the day and refusing bottle :(
I dont have any experience with Neocate milk.have not seen it in the farmacy or Boots store...where could I get it?Just started Cow&Gate infasoy lactose free milk.Do you have any experience with this kind of milk?
Also good to mention that she hiccups nearly after every feed and keeps sucking her fingers and dribbles a lot.could that hiccup be sign of reflux?
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Postby Mrs Contractor Mum » Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:04 pm

I think you can get neocate from the pharmacist. If you can't see it, ask and they should be able to order it for you.
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Postby Htheh » Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:11 pm

Hiccups are very common with reflux and silent reflux. Both mine hiccuped like mad inside and outside the womb! Neocate is prescription only, it us a ver specialised and expensive formula, similar to Nutramigen but even better. It costs around £40 for a small tin! Some pharmacies do sell it, but I truly wouldn't recommend trying it without a proper diagnosis. You need to get referred to a paeditrician that specialises in Gastro. Insist your GP does this, or at least voice your concerns. Have you got private health insurance? This should speed up the process. Obviously, this is only if changing bottles etc. doesn't work. It could just be something minor, and not an allergy at all. But I would get professional advice before trying different types of formula etc. I self diagnosed my son, put him on Wysoy formula which worked for a while and then he developed an even more severe allergy to the soya, due to me forcing it on him. So I would recommend you insist on being referred to a specialist before messing around with formulas, I wasted a lot of money on different formulas, bottles, teats and cups etc. It is better for your baby and your pocket to get a professional opinion.
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