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Re: Save Northcote Library and Chatham Hall!

by this_is_cat » Wed Feb 27, 2019 3:44 pm

LilyJessica
Surely people can use another local library temporarily until the new one is built?
There is one opposite the Asda car park and another in Balham - neither is more than 15 minutes walk from the Northcote library

Re: Save Northcote Library and Chatham Hall!

by LilyJessica » Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:51 pm

Does anyone know if there is any phasing involved in this development, in order that the new library is completed and opened before the old library is closed?  Continuity of service from the library which has significant community value is possible due to having two independent sites.  

I may have missed it, but I can see nothing in the planning submission which enforces delivery of the new library element of the development prior to release of the existing library site for development.  

I have emailed the planning officer but he seems unable to respond.  

Northcote Library and Chatham Hall - redevelopment

by Goldhawk » Mon Feb 11, 2019 7:07 am

https://planning.wandsworth.gov.uk/WAM/ ... IbHFvDpids

The new updated plans for the library redevelopment are online now on the planning website 

Re: Save Northcote Library and Chatham Hall!

by Flowermummy » Mon Sep 18, 2017 1:12 pm

I'm a local resident and am against the proposal.
A refurbished library is of course a good idea, but why do we have to lose Chatham Hall as a nursery space and community area for various classes??
The council have not told us that they looked into any alternative solutions where the Northcote Library and Chatham Hall spaces can be both kept for community use (instead of being turned into non affordable housing).

Re: Save Northcote Library and Chatham Hall!

by runningmummy » Mon Sep 18, 2017 11:15 am

I don't think it's ignoring views of local residents. I am a local resident and I support the new library. I think a smaller one would be better and always welcome a nice new building and additional shops. It's progress.

Re: Save Northcote Library and Chatham Hall!

by Goldhawk » Sat Sep 16, 2017 8:57 pm

Have you read the details?

The new library ends up smaller and the council flogs off a load of prime land to developers for more flats

Nothing wrong with redevelopment or more social housing imho

Yet another example of Wandsworth Council ignoring the views of local residents

Re: Save Northcote Library and Chatham Hall!

by runningmummy » Fri Sep 15, 2017 8:06 pm

Brilliant news we will have a new library for children and some new shops. Thank god that awful ugly building is going. Well done Wandsworth! Progression!

Re: Save Northcote Library and Chatham Hall!

by parsleysong » Fri Sep 15, 2017 7:46 pm

The title of this thread is misleading I think? The proposal isn't to get rid of a library but just to re-design a better one. I borrow books from there and it's a horrible space to be in - it just doesn't work. It's cold and very uninviting and not somewhere you'd want to linger. I'm in and out of there as quickly as I can be.

As for that eye-sore across the road from the library, Chatham House, it's somewhere I walk past as quickly as possible. So ugly! Looks like the space was a victim of ww2 German bombing and a hastily constructed and badly designed concrete box went up in place of whatever was there originally.

Re: Save Northcote Library and Chatham Hall!

by Flowermummy » Fri Sep 15, 2017 7:22 pm

Re: Save Northcote Library and Chatham Hall!

by jenwaken » Wed Mar 08, 2017 11:13 am

Alex Glassbrook from Wandsworth Lib Dems wrote the council yesterday and made some excellent points. Please read to understand the concerns many local residents have with the project and with the way it is being handled.

Re: Save Northcote Library and Chatham Hall!

by Flowermummy » Tue Mar 07, 2017 9:53 am

To Wandsworth Council and Cllr Jonathan Cook:
You mention misinformation circulating locally but offer no evidence that the well articulated concerns of our community are misinformation.
You must be aware by now of all the issues mentioned by buddybear, however you address none of these in your letter.
Please remember you work for the people of Wandsworth and please do not patronise us!
You need to engage in the debate with solid arguments, facts and figures, and NOT by branding our concerns as misinformation!!!

Re: Save Northcote Library and Chatham Hall!

by Buddybear » Mon Mar 06, 2017 9:11 pm

Please see the response below from the Change Petition to the letter posted earlier in the thread. To sign the petition please go to https://www.change.org/p/save-chatham-h ... velopment/

Cllr Jonathan Cook has sent out a letter on 3rd March highlighting “misinformation circulating locally” about Northcote Library development.

Yet again the Council is wasting our Council tax money on this mailing, to force upon local residents their extreme one-sided view containing misinformation. Here are some examples:

1. “a bigger library at 697 sqm” - not true as this includes the money-spinning business suites; actually a smaller usable library.

2. “improved community centre” - ok it will be new, but the layout is worse for the nursery and the playground would be lost forever.

3. the flaws of the existing library -
i) "inadequate natural lighting” - he is referring to the basement room; the vast majority of the library has massive south and west facing windows.
ii) “no parking space for buggies” - there is unused space to the left of the entrance where mums leave buggies

4. “the Council is working with all the groups that use Chatham Hall” - in reality the Council is working against the users; the nursery for example is exasperated with their rough treatment.

5. “the new homes would be built to the same size and scale as their neighbours” - the tallest houses around Chatham Hall are 6 metres high; the new flats would be 9 metres high.

Please remember to ask friends and family to complete the Council questionnaires.

Thank you for your continued support.

Re: Save Northcote Library and Chatham Hall!

by Goldhawk » Mon Mar 06, 2017 4:21 pm

It would be nice if the council would address our questions/comments
The new library will be smaller - perhaps the councillor would like to look at the plans that the council has published

Refurb the current library = yes
Selling the site = no
Private flats = no

I wouldn't mind paying a few more quid in council tax for a refurbished library and some new social housing (with no right to buy)

Re: Save Northcote Library and Chatham Hall!

by pie81 » Mon Mar 06, 2017 4:07 pm

My concern with this proposal is that Wandsworth is taking two public sites and ending up with only one. The other will be sold into private hands forever.

In doing so it is selling off one of its "crown jewels" i.e. a large plot of land right on Northcote Road. This can only be done once, once sold it is sold forever.

I strongly believe the council should look for solutions where it retains both sites for public use - at least on the ground floor level. We don't need more shop units on Northcote Road, there are plenty that are empty as it is. Why not rebuild both sites with a public facility at ground level? One side library, one side community hall - perhaps with a new playground open to the public at weekends as a previous poster suggested (how wonderful would that be). Flats above both sites and where the garages are should be enough to finance that, I'd have thought.

The current proposal seems remarkably unimaginative. Given it's proposing to sell off a valuable public site forever, I would like to see more done to persuade us all that that is worth the sacrifice. (Or preferably, as I say, a proposal which doesn't sacrifice so much public space).

To be honest I'm a little bit skeptical about where the cash raised will be going. I'm not convinced it will all be used to finance the rebuild. I suspect some may be going to cover funding gaps elsewhere so that Wandsworth can keep its "never raised taxes" badge. If that's true then it's very short termist and selling off long term public assets for short term political gain.

Re: Save Northcote Library and Chatham Hall!

by Buddybear » Mon Mar 06, 2017 3:58 pm

Thank you Wandsworth Council for your update.

There is a piece of land currently occupied by garages next to the chicken shop which could be used to build a victorian shop's width of retail and residential space. I had a look at the plot today and it is pretty big. With the proceeds of the sale I am sure that it would be possible to upgrade the kitchen and toilet facilities in chatham hall. and also update the current library.

In this way, the playground in Chatham Hall would be preserved and could even be updated for all the community to use. We need more outdoor space for children in Wandsworth, not less.

While the current library may not to be everybody's cup of tea, it was purpose built and is surrounded by windows on all sides- therefore to say that is does not have any natural light is a bit disingenuous. In addition, there is loads of buggy space at the foot of the stairs. It does need a new lift but that shouldn't be expensive.

Whether you agree with the consultation or not please register your views at northcotelibrary.co.uk before 11 March.

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