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Re: Is a central WA group a good idea to add 11+ progress of our children?

by Defopastnappies » Mon Jan 10, 2022 5:45 pm

Agree with others, it seems over anxious and excessive, which can’t help the children.
WA groupomania lol
The ability of children in the group will vary anyway, no point in mums comparing or info gathering , it’s online fussing and unhealthy IMO.
Encourage your child to ask teacher . If any mum goes on to pass on info from group to their child even casually , it’s odd.

Re: Is a central WA group a good idea to add 11+ progress of our children?

by Barbie » Mon Jan 10, 2022 4:56 pm

Thanks to everyone for your thoughts and experiences of the 11+.

I think that I will do as suggested and buddy up with a couple of close friends and go through the challenging experience with them and give the WA group a miss for now. Not sure that I am made of strong enough stuff to deal with the sort of group tat is being suggested.

Re: Is a central WA group a good idea to add 11+ progress of our children?

by betterannabel » Mon Jan 10, 2022 2:08 pm

Some of the mums at DDs school did this, partly to make a new single mum welcome, and it all went wrong. There was an Audrey Hepburn themed fundraiser one night and let's just say, there was drama. One of the husbands met an untimely, but not undeserved, end. 

Re: Is a central WA group a good idea to add 11+ progress of our children?

by Bama » Mon Jan 10, 2022 1:55 pm

I can’t think anything worse than a WA group with other 11+ mums. Run away as far as you can!
Stay away from playground chats and do not trust half of what you are told.

Re: Is a central WA group a good idea to add 11+ progress of our children?

by MagnoliaMum » Mon Jan 10, 2022 12:57 pm

I can sort of see where this mother is coming from as when your child is going through this process, you become a bit obsessive about it and are interested how your child's friends are doing too, and it can feel awkward to ask.

I don't think I'm a particularly ambitious mother, but I was shocked at how brutal it felt when my son was rejected by a couple of schools after the exam, not even getting through to interview. He was disappointed but I felt as though he'd been personally attacked and I'd failed to protect him against this hurt, it was really horrible. Irrational maybe, but they are very young. Once he had an offer from a decent school we liked, it was all fine - but the whole process takes weeks and you may not feel like sharing every step with everyone.

So I think a WhatsApp group would be a great idea for parents of those children who will get interviews and offers from every school they apply to and then agonise over which offer to accept. But the others may find it adds an additional layer of competitiveness to an already stressful process. Good luck!

Re: Is a central WA group a good idea to add 11+ progress of our children?

by Daisychain » Mon Jan 10, 2022 11:00 am

As a first time the whole process is full of the unknown and more daunting than the 3rd timer. From experience I have encountered a parent stressed to the hilt first time round for their child, then brazenly nonchalant about the process for 2nd and 3rd, advising parents don’t stress every child will find their school, etc - yet still avoided sharing any useful information other than how easy the process & to relax.

I can see the parents POV however it is her choice as much as it is yours to participate or not.

You would be better served confiding & seeking counsel in a friend with children in older age groups and not in the same 11+ cohort with same schools/places.

Re: Is a central WA group a good idea to add 11+ progress of our children?

by dohnia » Mon Jan 10, 2022 10:59 am

Totally agree with what everyone has said here, it's a personal decision but your initial post sounds like you're reluctant already. It is such a stressful time it seems like it'd be best avoided!

Re: Is a central WA group a good idea to add 11+ progress of our children?

by Starr » Mon Jan 10, 2022 9:31 am

Totally agree alenaraphaella!
Definitely do not join a WhatsApp group for the 11 plus. Some of your children may be waitlisted for the same school.
Remember, every year some children will not get the results they deserve and that's the brutal reality of the 11 plus, so best to avoid contact with very stressed out parents during this time.

Re: Is a central WA group a good idea to add 11+ progress of our children?

by 2SW17boys » Mon Jan 10, 2022 9:20 am

No waaaay. We put info like open days, registration cut-offs etc. on an existing class WhatsApp but certainly not how the kids were faring. I’d keep the rest of it low key and 1:1 with your friend if you have queries around process or if there’s anything she thinks you specifically need to know. It can be a stressful time and focus needs to be on the best outcome for your child whilst keeping it relaxed. I’d stick with your instinct to avoid!
Ps - good luck with it all.

Re: Is a central WA group a good idea to add 11+ progress of our children?

by missraphaella » Mon Jan 10, 2022 9:17 am

I've struggled for the past several years with the parent Whatsapp groups at our primary, and those are only for Reception and Year 2. The amount of messages, a majority of which are unnecessary tidbits of useless updates/notifications, often drown out the occasionally important piece of information. Quite often there are individuals who tend to dominate the messages and the general feeling is of 'groupthink', which results in individual views or concerns being suppressed or held back, out of fear of being seen a different. It rarely feels healthy and I wish there would be a return to the more analog days before social media, where communications from the school were sent home on a piece of paper via the book bags.

The idea of a Whatsapp group setup purely to 'compare' progress of the pupils sounds like a nightmare. From my own experience of these groups I can easily imagine a fair degree of passive/aggressive comments, or worse, outright competitiveness - none of which would help the pupils in question. The problem (again) comes down to nuance - these groups don't tend to allow for it, and everything is thrust into black/white. When dealing with academic progress I think 'sharing' via a Whatsapp group could be counterproductive, and possibly even detrimental, to (some) of the parents.  You only need a few competitive parents to be very vocal to dominate discussions, to create an atmosphere where other parents - whose children may be taking a little longer, or whose progress is slower going, to avoid participating. 

My own personal view of course,  no doubt others may feel differently.

Re: Is a central WA group a good idea to add 11+ progress of our children?

by Busymumof3 » Mon Jan 10, 2022 9:15 am

I’ve always said to friends with younger children that it’s best not to discuss the 11+ with other mums other than good, trusted friends. It’s far too easy to get stressed out hearing that, eg another child has done 5 practice papers this week, whereas yours may not have done any, or another family are applying for 10 schools but you’ve chosen to apply for 3. Every child is different, and every family’s hopes are different. Work out what is best for your child, then try to stick to that. Sure, listen to advice from good friends, but personally I wouldn’t ever join a WhatsApp group. Good luck, and be assured that somehow it all works itself out in the end.

Re: Is a central WA group a good idea to add 11+ progress of our children?

by Scottov » Mon Jan 10, 2022 9:14 am

Run, don’t walk, run, run far away…

Re: Is a central WA group a good idea to add 11+ progress of our children?

by EHMorris » Mon Jan 10, 2022 8:56 am

Hahaha. Not in a million years.

Re: Is a central WA group a good idea to add 11+ progress of our children?

by Strawberriesandcream » Fri Jan 07, 2022 4:51 pm

I can’t imagine anything worse.

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