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Re: Aircon installation

by dimelda » Tue Mar 07, 2023 11:53 am

Everyone on this thread should read what SouthLondonDaddy says.  He's the one - possibly the only one - who knows what he's talking about when it comes to aircon units & the Planning permission required.

Re: Aircon installation

by muddyboots » Mon Feb 27, 2023 7:50 am

I’ve been curious if planning permission is required, makes sense.
A neighbour across from me has an unsightly unit on the roof.

Re: Aircon installation

by chorister » Thu May 20, 2021 8:38 am

If you really must have aircon then perhaps look at solar panels to run it (unless you already have them).  For solar I'd recommend a local company called Treadlighter.

Re: Aircon installation

by SouthLondonDaddy » Mon Apr 12, 2021 3:11 pm

OP, you will need to apply for planning permission. Are you familiar with how it works? You need it even for non-listed building outside of conservation areas.

The rules in England are that any "plant", like the external unit of an aircon system, must produce a noise 10dB lower than the average background noise of the area.

The proper way to assess this is to call a noise assessment consultant who, for about £1k, will measure the noise with some kind of big, professionally calibrated microphone, then calculate the noise that your neighbours would hear, taking into account distance, walls in between, etc.

The external units tend to produce between 48-52dB of noise. The background noise in a quiet back garden tends to be 33-38dB (unless you overlook a main road, are under a flight path, etc). if you have a huge garden and a fully detached house, distance alone (from your neighbours' windows) might dampen the sound enough; if you have an average mid-sized terraced house, you will most likely need some kind of noise-dampening enclosure. These things are big and expensive. If you have a small garden, it would take a lot of space. If you don't even have a garden, well, you cannot hang it on a wall.

All of this is just for the noise. Depending on where you live, you may be subject to other rules on the "eyesore factor".

An alternative is a water-cooled system without an external condenser; and therefore with no need for planning permission; these systems get rid of the heat not by expelling it via an external fan, but via the water pipes.

Many people install aircon without planning permission, but it's risky, because aircon is expensive, and you risk that a lovely neighbour might complain and get the council to force you to uninstall the whole thing.

I know of 3 companies that install water-cooled systems (you can google the names to find the links)
  • AllComfortSolutions
  • UrbanCooling
  • CoolYouDirect

If you want to go for an ordinary system, you can get quotes from the first two above, or from DgAirConditioning ltd. The Air Conditioning Company is probably one of the largest in London but also fairly expensive.


Re: Aircon installation

by sidmeister » Fri Mar 26, 2021 12:33 am

Thanks so much, that’s handy. I think gravity ought to work quite well for me as the air con’s for the loft and I have a flat roof on the first floor where I think I’d want to put the compressor.

Re: Aircon installation

by pkmang » Mon Mar 15, 2021 7:34 am

I twice used a company Crystal Sigma to install a Daikin split system in two flats.

The biggest problem is where to put the compressor outside that neighbors won't object (it is very quiet) and condensate drainage. Try to avoid having a pump, they are trouble. Gravity flow on the outside wall is best.

Aircon installation

by sidmeister » Sun Mar 07, 2021 8:39 am

I’m looking to get an air con unit installed in my loft conversion. I was wondering if anybody had recommendations for a good installer they’d used in the past.