The Orthodontic Practice Battersea - your experience and opinions please

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Azilal10
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The Orthodontic Practice Battersea - your experience and opinions please

Postby Azilal10 » Thu Feb 13, 2020 12:59 pm

Hi All

I have seen previous threads either specifically about The Orthodontic Practice Battersea (on Battersea Rise) or about Othodontics/ists generally, but they seem to have been posted some time ago so I wanted to reach out for more current thoughts.

I just wanted to see if anyone on here has any experience of this practice at all, in particular with Dr Samir Moghanchi? In addition have you or your children been fitted with a quadhelix device or thumbguard there and what was your experience like, and the outcome?

My daughter is due to be fitted with one under their watch so thought I'd do my due diligence and see what the general opinion of the practice and the experience is from you knowledgable lot!

Many thanks
 
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Postby rubyonrails » Thu Feb 13, 2020 2:53 pm

I have three friends with 4 children between them all having undergone / undergoing ortho treatment at this Battersea Practice. The one who has finished has great teeth. All are private patients, I think that you can have ortho on the NHS at Battersea Ortho if you qualify? They all seem very happy. Hope this helps a little? I also have an adult friend who has used them, again very happy.
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Postby twomonkeys » Thu Dec 03, 2020 8:04 pm

Hi there

I'm also interested in opinions on The Orthodontic Practice at Battersea.

Anyone used them this year please?

Many thanks!
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Postby sw18dad » Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:12 am

Our son is currently an orthodontic patient at the practice and has been for the last year with braces. They have been excellent - Dr Sam is clear, enthusiastic and committed. We even had our regular check-up appointments via Whatsapp during Lockdown 1.0. Took a bit of time to get organised on face to face appointments post lockdown with the new restrictions but that was totally understandable.
All in all, we'd happily recommend to others. 
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Postby twomonkeys » Mon Dec 07, 2020 7:51 am

Thank you so much - we were automatically referred, so it's very useful to hear.
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Postby MagnoliaMum » Mon Dec 07, 2020 10:18 am

There are 3 of us in this family who can heartily recommend Sam and the Practice. Both my husband and I had overcrowded mouths and had to have 4 teeth out and then a brace as children, so it was inevitable that my 2 boys would need orthodontic treatment. However Sam managed to achieve perfect smiles for them with no extractions! It was a bit of a slog, with the jaw expander first (I think that might be what you call the quadhelix?), then a fixed train-tracks brace, head-gear, elastics, etc, but as long as they follow the instructions, he can achieve miracles. And even though my younger son had extra complications and needed more sessions, he never charged more than his original quote.

The third one in the family is me. My teeth have been shuffling around and turning as an adult, so I am just finishing orthodontic treatment with Sam too, after seeing the results for my kids. It's not been much fun wearing a fixed brace, but it comes off next month and my teeth will look amazing. So I'm sure it will all work out well for your daughter, good luck to her!
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Postby Juan Poquito » Wed Dec 09, 2020 2:59 pm

I would be wary and ask lots of questions. When our 9 year old daughter was referred there for overcrowding she was recommended a head brace at first, or the option of having two teeth out so that an external expander could be fitted. The orthodontist she saw, Sam, tried to sell the headbrace on the basis that she is "very grown up for her age" and would cope.

Needless to say we sought two other opinions. Neither of the two other orthodontists (one NHS/private and the other private - both experienced) agreed with a head brace - it would "finish her childhood" said one and "didn't realise anyone still used those" said another. The recommended treatment route they concurred on independently is "wait and see" with no extractions,  the possibility of an expander 9 months from now or even nothing at all until she is 11 or 12. A teenage "traintrack" brace is probably unavoidable (very common) whatever we do but early intervention may not be necessary and if it is we won't be doing extractions or head gear. 

Now, call me a cynic but a head brace is the most expensive option (versus expander or extraction or do nothing..obvs) and the referring dentist gets a kick back for the orthodontic treatment. Join those dots people. And before someone says "well in the US and Australia they intervene earlier - we are backward in the UK", one of the orthodontists we sought a second opinion from is an Aussie.

Anyway, the choice, as they say, is yours.
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Postby Elenita4ever » Wed Dec 09, 2020 3:27 pm

Hi there,

Excuse my ignorance, but is a quadhelix device the same as "head gear"?  An external head brace that connects to teeth clamps via elastic bands?  If so, I would think very carefully about having your daughter fitted with one.  In fact, I would go as far as to say, don't do it.

We had a very similar experience to Juan P above.  We sought a second opinion and the second orthodontist was shocked that headgear had even been considered for a 9 year-old.

Also, I didn't like that the headgear was "sold" directly to my daughter by Sam (who almost excluded me from the conversation) on the basis that she was "so grown up".   Luckily she's is a very grown up and sensible girl so she didn't let that flattery go to her head - literally.

Please PM me if you would like the name of the alternative local NHS orthodontist, where our dentist referred us for a second opinion.  Best to get a second view from a professional.

All good wishes.




 
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Postby kitmum » Wed Dec 09, 2020 5:10 pm

Hi,
I am unsure whether a quadhelix device is the same as was suggested to us by Sam but our experience was similar to that described by JP and E4E above. We were told my son needed the very specific treatment urgently (and privately) else, it would necessitate extractions and/or a smile with "black triangles" (i.e., a set of teeth too narrow to achieve a full smile with black gaps at the sides). Once this particular device has been used, an NHS route is no longer available if further treatment with traditional braces is required (something that wasn't highlighted to us at the time but I learnt from a friend that did go down this route with Sam).

My observation was the same as E4E that Sam tried to sell it to my son.  He also whispered information to his receptionist before giving us a quote which I found very unprofessional. It seemed that we were being pressurised down a particular route to ensure we went privately. I also had to asked for further supporting information that was reluctantly provided (a contrast to other practices where a consultation report/ treatment plan was offered as a matter of course).

We also sought 2 further opinions, one of which was an orthodontist who only does private work so no possibility for a hidden agenda. Her advice was to wait as my son was still growing. She started actively treating my son a year and a bit later using Invisalign for the same cost as traditional braces.  It has been a very positive experience, particularly through lockdown as my son could continue the treatment throughout. He has almost completed the treatment with amazing results and much easier, virtually pain-free and quicker than my own experience of traditional braces with headgear, etc.

I am extremely glad we sought another opinion and didn't go with treatment and a practice with which we didn't feel comfortable, particularly as it is usually a journey upwards of 6 months' duration.

Good luck and hope you find something that works for you.
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