Your car older than 2006? Prepare for it being banned from the road!

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Denwand
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Your car older than 2006? Prepare for it being banned from the road!

Postby Denwand » Thu May 19, 2016 11:37 am

It seems Sadiq Khan has proposed to increase the size of the Ultra Low Emission Zone (ULEZ) from the City/West End Congestion charge area to include the whole of London inside the North and South Circulars.

Also he intends to bring implementation forward to next year instead of 4 years time in 2020. :o

Living just outside in Wandsworth that means a trip to Putney of Fulham or Clapham or Battersea will cost me £12.50 each time.

If you live inside you have three years to sell your car (which will be virtually worthless as it's not ULEZ compliant) and then pay £12.50 a day (£4562 a year) whether you use your car or not! :o

Despite Mr Khans rhetoric of supporting the less well off - this will squarely hit the poorer drivers, the OAPs, the nurses, the care workers the part-time workers such as teaching assistants - those who drive older cars.

Let me make it clear - I am all in favour of cleaning London's air but is an OAP in their 2005 1000cc Nissan Micra really the biggest pollution problem and the first to target???

I would like to see the statistics that show how many come in to the CC zone and what their relative pollution is against, say, a 7,000 diesel lorry or a 4,500 litre diesel 4x4.

At least leave the legislation until 2020 - in 4 years time many will have been scrapped anyway - why not make it 7 years then 99.9% will have gone and you won't turn an OAPs car into scrap overnight and take away their independence.
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Postby Denwand » Thu May 19, 2016 11:46 am

Sorry - Evening Standard Article here;'

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/s ... 47126.html
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Postby papinian » Thu May 19, 2016 12:55 pm

Our children are being poisoned every day. The NO2 level at 433 London schools exceeds EU limits. Boris Johnson suppressed a report with the evidence of this: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05 ... ution-and/

We now know that pretty much all diesel cars produce N02 and other pollution at a multiple of what the tests had showed. To say that the manufacturers gamed the tests would be an understatement. And the green lobby bears some responsibility since they push for diesel cars was partly because they result in lower CO2 emissions (but much higher particulate and NO2 emissions!)

My taxes are paying for free transport for OAPs - maybe they should use that rather than driving around in their cars. As a family of 4 with two pre-school age children we have always managed in Wandsworth without the need for any car despite working anti-social hours and travelling pretty widely across central and south London.

As regards your comments about the less well off, the propensity to drive in London is largely correlated with income.

I say all of the above as someone who lives immediately outside the south circular and won't benefit from the ULEZ extension - and who is in fact worried that it will push more traffic into my area when people avoid the extended ULEZ.
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Postby Goldhawk » Thu May 19, 2016 1:07 pm

https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/ultra- ... tcmp=32646

This seems to say you have to pay if you drive a non compliant car - not that you have to pay even if you don't use it
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Your car older than 2006 or 2015? Prepare for it being banned from the road!

Postby Denwand » Tue May 31, 2016 7:33 am

Re-reading the "exclusion rules" for the ULEZ it's worse than I thought. :o

If you have a DIESEL car then it has to be made after January 2015...so the brand new car you bought 18 months ago is now virtually WORTHLESS! :shock:

Cycling around Wandsworth (as I do) I mentally checked the number of Diesel cars older than "65" registration in our area parked in our suburban streets as well as the petrol cars older than 2006.

It seems that 80% of our cars are now worthless for London driving with nearly all the Mercedes,Volvo, Audi and Range Rover 4x4s being Diesel and having to be sold off (to people in the Midlands?) even if they were brand new 18 months ago!

This will be a huge shock to some, and I don't think it's sunk in yet
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Postby emmanuilteleshev » Tue Nov 10, 2020 6:27 pm

It's scrap time I guess :). Though I doubt that they'll be obliging everyone who owns an old car to take it to https://www.scrapi.com/blog/can-i-scrap ... out-wheels or something lke that. Such a measure would leave a lot of people carless. Hell, even I will be forced to spend money on a new one. I believe that the most reasonable approach would be to bann judging by the level of pollution they generate. I currently own a Toyota Avensis 2005 with gas installation I am more eco friendly than some of the hybrids.
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Postby ronangel » Thu Nov 12, 2020 7:24 am

If the conservitive Guy gets in as new mayor says he will drop extended ULEZ  straight away!
I know where my vote is going as OAP with older car. I also think Khan is past his sell by date and would have been long gone but for the deaded lurgy....
https://www.change.org/p/sadiq-khan-sto ... -in-london
 
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Postby chorister » Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:41 am

I know where my vote is going ........
Sounds like your vote is going to a higher carbon future for people younger than you.
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Postby gabrielh » Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:59 am

I don't think old cars will be banned from the road, that would make too many cars ...



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Postby ronangel » Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:28 am

chorister wrote:
Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:41 am
I know where my vote is going ........
Sounds like your vote is going to a higher carbon future for people younger than you. 
 If you pay for them I and other OAPs I am sure would be happy to buy newer compliant cars. We survived worst "carbon" then they will ever have to, and are still here! This is like the present TFL cycle lanes stuff all about money. If Khan gets back in your rates will soar!I was told by someone connected with the council a few years back that The meals on wheels service was scrapped to pay for road the humps! These slow down emergency services and increase pollution, as do cycle lane rubbish which was installed without consultation and is hardly used. Blocking streets also adds to problems of increased pollution without affecting virus control in any way.
 
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