How much should I pay a Party Wall Surveyor?

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Re: How much should I pay a Party Wall Surveyor?

Postby ricochernandez » Fri Sep 01, 2017 9:25 am

As a party wall surveyor I'd like to offer a few pointers which may help some of you:

1. Once you've made the decision to go ahead with a project, pop over to your neighbour's house with a bottle of wine and speak to your neighbours (NO EMAILS) as soon as possible, informing them of your decision. Explain that you're putting in for planning/permitted development and you intend to notify them under the Party Wall Act (using an experienced surveyor) so that both of you are protected under it. Make them feel comfortable that you are doing your best to do everything above board and want to minimise disruption. Remember, for most people, their house is their biggest asset so building works will naturally spook them.

Where neighbours don't communicate is when problems happen and neighbours are more likely to appoint their own surveyor. Keep an open line of communication and just be transparent about it.

Almost everyday we hear "my neighbour just sent me a party wall notice and I don't know what to do" or "I've never met them and I'd like to appoint a surveyor."

Don't sit behind the screen, be proactive and be neighbourly.

2. If you are going to appoint a party wall surveyor, try and find one who belongs to a body such as the Faculty of Party Wall Surveyors or the Pyramus and Thisbe Club, so that there is some sort of code of practice that they need to abide by, and make sure you ask them how they will mitigate costs, along with any other hidden fees. If they aren't transparent, forget it. If they aren't proactive, then expect delays in your project.

3. IF your neighbour decides to appoint their own surveyor, please be aware that they have probably received a handful of letters from party wall surveyors from all over the country marketing their services. These surveyors trawl the planning portal looking for people who are carrying out building works and then write to their neighbours informing them of their rights. Because there are low barriers to entry to become a party wall surveyor, you get some good surveyors but you get other surveyors who are all about their fees and charge extortionate amounts.

Ask your neighbour to get a surveyor from a party wall body, to make sure that they're local to the project (to avoid travelling expenses), to ensure they themselves aren't liable for any fees and most importantly...GOOGLE them.

4. If your neighbour does appoint a surveyor ask your surveyor to ask that surveyor for an indication of their fees, hourly rate and how long they think they'll spend on the project. Remember, you as the building owner are only down to pay reasonable fees. To give you an idea of how important it is to keep an eye on fees, I recently asked another party wall surveyor for his fee for a single storey rear extension. He came back to me with a fee of £2,250. We challenged this with one email and he quickly reduced it to £1,110.

There is a lot more I could write but I'm rushing out of the office, but happy to respond to specific questions.
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Re: How much should I pay a Party Wall Surveyor?

Postby davethomas99999 » Sat Oct 14, 2017 4:20 pm

Go to:

www.partywallsurveyorsassociation.com

They provide a full list of approved Surveyors.
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Re: How much should I pay a Party Wall Surveyor?

Postby Vernet66 » Thu Dec 07, 2017 4:17 pm

I am looking for people willing to talk about their experience of a party wall dispute to an audience of surveyors . Not about the neighbours but about the party wall surveyors who handled it (for good or bad). As much as I would like to be proven wrong, it seems to me that owners are sometimes treated as a commodity and the true nature of dispute resolution forgotten. If you are willing to travel to central London, please get in touch via the Party Wall Academy website.
www.thepartywallacademy.org.uk
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Re: How much should I pay a Party Wall Surveyor?

Postby jenster68 » Mon Aug 20, 2018 11:02 am

We are having a ground floor rear extension built and have provided both our adjoining neighbours with the party wall notice.  One of the neighbours has immediately appointed a party wall surveyor (I don't know why).  The neighbour has agreed for us to share their surveyor and the surveyor has given us a fixed fee for carrying out the process up to and including the award.  My question is:  is it common practice for the party wall surveyor to divulge the fee we have agreed to our adjoining neighbour?  As the building owners, the fee is payable by us so I am not sure that is the business of the adjoining owner to know the fee that we have agreed.  However, the surveyor has now copied the adjoining owner in on an email trail between me and him within which the fees were agreed.  Any advice appreciated.
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Re: How much should I pay a Party Wall Surveyor?

Postby SVK » Mon Dec 03, 2018 9:49 pm

ricochernandez wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2017 9:25 am
As a party wall surveyor I'd like to offer a few pointers which may help some of you:

1. Once you've made the decision to go ahead with a project, pop over to your neighbour's house with a bottle of wine and speak to your neighbours (NO EMAILS) as soon as possible, informing them of your decision. Explain that you're putting in for planning/permitted development and you intend to notify them under the Party Wall Act (using an experienced surveyor) so that both of you are protected under it. Make them feel comfortable that you are doing your best to do everything above board and want to minimise disruption. Remember, for most people, their house is their biggest asset so building works will naturally spook them.

Where neighbours don't communicate is when problems happen and neighbours are more likely to appoint their own surveyor. Keep an open line of communication and just be transparent about it.

Almost everyday we hear "my neighbour just sent me a party wall notice and I don't know what to do" or "I've never met them and I'd like to appoint a surveyor."

Don't sit behind the screen, be proactive and be neighbourly.

2. If you are going to appoint a party wall surveyor, try and find one who belongs to a body such as the Faculty of Party Wall Surveyors or the Pyramus and Thisbe Club, so that there is some sort of code of practice that they need to abide by, and make sure you ask them how they will mitigate costs, along with any other hidden fees. If they aren't transparent, forget it. If they aren't proactive, then expect delays in your project.

3. IF your neighbour decides to appoint their own surveyor, please be aware that they have probably received a handful of letters from party wall surveyors from all over the country marketing their services. These surveyors trawl the planning portal looking for people who are carrying out building works and then write to their neighbours informing them of their rights. Because there are low barriers to entry to become a party wall surveyor, you get some good surveyors but you get other surveyors who are all about their fees and charge extortionate amounts.

Ask your neighbour to get a surveyor from a party wall body, to make sure that they're local to the project (to avoid travelling expenses), to ensure they themselves aren't liable for any fees and most importantly...GOOGLE them.

4. If your neighbour does appoint a surveyor ask your surveyor to ask that surveyor for an indication of their fees, hourly rate and how long they think they'll spend on the project. Remember, you as the building owner are only down to pay reasonable fees. To give you an idea of how important it is to keep an eye on fees, I recently asked another party wall surveyor for his fee for a single storey rear extension. He came back to me with a fee of £2,250. We challenged this with one email and he quickly reduced it to £1,110.

There is a lot more I could write but I'm rushing out of the office, but happy to respond to specific questions.

Hi ricochernandez, I appreciate you posted the advice a while ago but just wondered if you wouldn’t mind offering some advice. We have just been granted planning on our property. We did visit both our neighbours before the build, but both have gone ahead and instructed their own surveyor. One of the surveyors is a city based surveyor who has already requested several bits of information, some of which, we have objected to as irrelevant to the party wall and in particular the foundations. In respect of the fees, I have a horrid feeling the bill will be extortionate. I am expecting a big bill from both. I will request a breakdown in fees and possibly pay for what is reasonable. My question is can they pursue us for the rest of their bill? Thanks in advance
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Re: How much should I pay a Party Wall Surveyor?

Postby Callymum » Mon Dec 10, 2018 6:22 pm

Hi there, I know I am jumping on this post a little late, but my husband runs a Chartered Surveying Practice, and after listening to many, similar 'complaints', published a Blog article which you may find helpful? 

https://www.calsurv.co.uk/surveyorsnote ... all-awards

If you would like a friendly chat or any other advice, do get in touch, he would be happy to help... 
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Re: How much should I pay a Party Wall Surveyor?

Postby Rosie1ee » Wed Jan 09, 2019 2:02 pm

Roughly from £1-2,000 I would say depending on the size?

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Re: How much should I pay a Party Wall Surveyor?

Postby CallyAnna » Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:40 am

On a different note, if you are planning building works, this Blog may also be helpful in terms of cost saving....

https://www.calsurv.co.uk/surveyorsnote ... and-pounds 
 
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