What DO we want on Northcote Road???

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Postby Tiggy » Mon Nov 09, 2020 11:30 am

There is also a pizza express on Abbeville Road. It seems to do very well!
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Postby Beketaten » Sun Jan 17, 2021 7:08 pm

The French bakery Oree is opening soon at 28 Northcote Road, next to All Bar One. 
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Postby Jonny Dyson Property Consultants » Sun Jan 17, 2021 7:35 pm

Evening all,

As the planning rules for shops have recently changed we are seeing a big increase in the number of shops getting change of use to restaurants/delis/bakeries etc. The left hand side of White Stuff is going to be a vegan deli/cafe/restaurant, and the right hand shop currently has a planning application for 'Pizzicheria Grappelli' which looks like it's an Italian deli/pizza place. Arlo's has also been re-let as a restaurant. Nothing against any of these guys, but still more of the same.

As such I find myself conflicted, on one side of course we don't want empty shops, as much for the landlords as for the overall 'feel' of the street, but as a resident it saddens me to see so many hospitality businesses taking over Northcote Road.  We are not in Soho, and if we simply become a street of Pizza, burger, or takeaway businesses then we really do lose the heart of Northcote Road as a mixed and balanced blend of all sorts of retail.

Not sure where I'm going with this, but food (pun entirely intended!) for thought?

Jonny
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Postby Starr » Mon Jan 18, 2021 10:53 am

Yesterday I overheard some residents talking about seeing large rats which they'd never seen before ☹
After bagging up left food rubbish on their doorstep.
I do wish people buying food to consume outdoors clear up after themselves.
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Postby Beketaten » Fri Jan 22, 2021 6:10 pm

Not Northcote Road, but there's a new Korean restaurant opening on Lavender Hill in the old Ginger Kiss site. https://yoriuk.com/ They already have branches in Wimbledon and central London. Good to have a different cuisine to choose from.
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Postby dudette » Mon Jan 25, 2021 2:22 pm

Jonny Dyson Property Consultants wrote:
Sun Jan 17, 2021 7:35 pm
Evening all,

As the planning rules for shops have recently changed we are seeing a big increase in the number of shops getting change of use to restaurants/delis/bakeries etc. The left hand side of White Stuff is going to be a vegan deli/cafe/restaurant, and the right hand shop currently has a planning application for 'Pizzicheria Grappelli' which looks like it's an Italian deli/pizza place. Arlo's has also been re-let as a restaurant. Nothing against any of these guys, but still more of the same.

As such I find myself conflicted, on one side of course we don't want empty shops, as much for the landlords as for the overall 'feel' of the street, but as a resident it saddens me to see so many hospitality businesses taking over Northcote Road.  We are not in Soho, and if we simply become a street of Pizza, burger, or takeaway businesses then we really do lose the heart of Northcote Road as a mixed and balanced blend of all sorts of retail.

Not sure where I'm going with this, but food (pun entirely intended!) for thought?

Jonny

I think we just have to acknowledge that retail is changing for good. Lockdown has just accelerated the pace at which we buy online rather than in physical shops. Personally I think the restaurants on Northcote Road are pretty awful (we still all mourn the passing of Rosita) so I hope some of the new ones are an improvement. Restaurants give a place a buzzy atmosphere and encourage people to come into the area. The road has changed over the years anyway as the hike in rents has driven out the very businesses that made the road what it is in the first place. Estate agents are far worse for taking away the character of an area - I'd rather restaurants than them any day. 
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Postby boonkoh » Mon Jan 25, 2021 9:42 pm

Unfortunately that is the trend now for High Streets.... Fashion/Retail stores are shutting down because they can't make it work. Even Debenhams is now gone.

And there is only going to be increased demand for restaurants and takeaways and delis. With the increased work from home situation, even post-COVID, all those home based workers will want to have something to eat for lunch, or go somewhere for dinner and drinks. Previously these would all be in Zone 1, near offices, but now will be in suburbs.
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Postby Jonny Dyson Property Consultants » Wed Jan 27, 2021 5:39 pm

Both excellent points from Dudette and Boonkoh, and I guess you're right to say that retail is probably on the wane.  I also completely agree on the estate agent comment which is why I took my business off the high street a year ago - people want you to be local, however all the high street shop provides is a (very) expensive billboard at a time when most people start their search online - I just can't see the high street model (as opposed to a local serviced office) surviving for much longer.

Back to the restaurants though, I just wish that there was something a little more interesting.  No offense to the existing places, but how many pizza / burger / bakeries and coffee shops do we need before we reach total saturation point?  Rosita was great, and the Persian place that replaced it was lovely, but come on, surely we can do better!! That being said, I hear good things about Kibou, and the new Vegan place looks hopeful next to the Old Bank.
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Postby Kirstie’s Mom » Mon Feb 01, 2021 9:41 am

Couldn’t agree more but given that the only viable shops over the last 13 months are those that can do take out food and drink ,not sure what can be done . I’m still waiting for a really good Deli like Ottolenghi .
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Postby Starr » Mon Feb 01, 2021 10:02 am

Yes! would love an Ottolenghi. I worked in the first one in Westbourne Grove for a bit after finishing university. Yotam was so nice and friendly and so very talented. I am not surprised he has expanded and become so famous since.

I agree with the boredom with pizza and burgers.

The other restaurant was not really Persian either.

I tend to go to Northcote rd for shopping rather than eating. I like the cook shop and the road is a handy place for buying gifts and cards and children's shoes. I also like the fresh fish stall.

I still don't know who is really shopping at the high end children's clothes shops. It's a wealthy area but not Knightsbridge.
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Postby Carol2R » Mon Feb 01, 2021 3:08 pm

It is disappointing and somewhat surprising that the range of restaurants on the Northcote Road doesn't show quite the variety or quality that this area could support.

But looking more deeply at the question of bricks and mortar vs online retail, it's not only that the trend is toward online as though that were wholly inevitable.  For several years now there has been recognition that we need a radical overhaul of business rates, which are unfairly penalising shops and giving an unfair advantage to online retail.  It's a complicated subject and not one to set the heart beating, so it keeps being put in the "too hard" pile.  But until it is dealt with we can expect an ever-narrowing range of shops.

Closer to home, shops need loyalty from local residents yet one business after another sets up around here declaring that they are in Clapham, apparently not realising that Clapham Junction is in Battersea.  Is it local commercial estate agents who are encouraging, or not correcting, this misconception?  Shops could lay better claim to local support if they knew a little bit about local history.
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Postby Starr » Wed Feb 03, 2021 11:36 am

Good point about business rates.
Tooting has lately had a restaurant with a Michelin mention which just goes to show how talented independents can thrive of they could afford to in the area.
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