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Re: Bolingbroke has it's first Ofsted rating

by onthecommon » Fri Oct 17, 2014 4:15 pm

On languages at the Bolingbroke there is a choice in Year 7 of either French or German. In Year 8 the pupils then do a second language, Spanish - so my Year 9 child is doing both French and Spanish and will choose this year whether to do both at GCSE or only one.
There is also an option to take Latin but that is as an extra curriculum activity before school.
Hope that clarifies.

Re: Bolingbroke has it's first Ofsted rating

by ouided01 » Fri Oct 17, 2014 12:05 pm

Thanks all for your feedback. Really helpful. I hope the results will reflect the positive points you've all pointed out. I only stayed for the headteacher's talk and had a 5-min tour just because I had to go to another open day. It gave a good impression of the school, but just felt it was a bit empty, I didn't see that many children/parents, and I am sure because they were in some school corners where I didn't get to see. I will make sure I attend the next Open day in full.

I do like the fact the school is local, which is a big advantage. But understandably with the lack of results it's hard to tell. I don't think it's an easy choice to make: a school with a proven track record of results, vs one with none.

I was in Graveney's Open day yesterday. The results look excellent on paper, and the children seemed happy. But honestly I felt lost on a huge campus with a huge number of visitors. Not to mention commute wasn't easy. I came back home tired and confused :) But that's me not the school not to blame :) The school has fantastic results according to many reports I read.

By the way, anyone knows whether French is taught as extra language in Bolingbroke since Year7?

Thank you.

Re: Bolingbroke has it's first Ofsted rating

by schoolgatesmum » Thu Oct 16, 2014 2:41 pm

I also have a child at Bolingbroke in Y8 and I am very pleased with the school. The teachers are fantastic and really understand the children and now that the building is complete there are some great facilities (the art suite, food technology, science labs). The presentations which I have been to at other school have children presenting but these tend to have been A level students (which obviously Bolingbroke does not have yet). I went to the open day this year with my Y6 child and there were lots of opportunities to talk to many students and teachers (I'm not sure what you get from one presentation from a child who has been specifically selected because they are good at public speaking). I talked to lots of children who honestly shared their views of the school and I came away with the impression that they were really proud of their school and were very happy. And the reason there is no work on the walls around the school is that the building has not been officially handed over (which will be very soon) so they are not allowed to "deface" the walls. I think Bolingbroke has been great for my child so far. Good luck with your choice!

Re: Bolingbroke has it's first Ofsted rating

by juliantenniscoach » Thu Oct 16, 2014 1:31 pm

"My own advice on choosing a school is attend open days, speak to current parents and never listen to gossip."

Amen.

Re: Bolingbroke has it's first Ofsted rating

by onthecommon » Thu Oct 16, 2014 1:16 pm

I consider myself to be very lucky to have 2 children at the Bolingbroke. Both are very happy and really enjoy their school days.
I can echo what ANNA MARIA said about the teaching, ethos and the progress the children make.
You ask in particular about stretch and we are happy that this is happening. Both of ours left primary with level 5a's and level 6's and are making excellent progress. My year 9 child, has already attended days at Oxford, Cambridge and University College London and this will be the target for many of the pupils.
However and just as important, the school focuses on the all round development of the child, and the extra curriculum, music, daily reading etc are fantastic.

One thing that is often overlooked when choosing a school is the commute and another special characteristic of the Bolingbroke is that all the children are local and most walk to school. This can save 2 hours a day and can really make a big difference in the quality of childhood.

My own advice on choosing a school is attend open days, speak to current parents and never listen to gossip.

Re: Bolingbroke has it's first Ofsted rating

by onthecommon » Thu Oct 16, 2014 1:15 pm

I consider myself to be very lucky to have 2 children at the Bolingbroke. Both are very happy and really enjoy their school days.
I can echo what ANNA MARIA said about the teaching, ethos and the progress the children make.
You ask in particular about stretch and we are happy that this is happening. Both of ours left primary with level 5a's and level 6's and are making excellent progress. My year 9 child, has already attended days at Oxford, Cambridge and University College London and this will be the target for many of the pupils.
However and just as important, the school focuses on the all round development of the child, and the extra curriculum, music, daily reading etc are fantastic.

One thing that is often overlooked when choosing a school is the commute and another special characteristic of the Bolingbroke is that all the children are local and most walk to school. This can save 2 hours a day and can really make a big difference in the quality of childhood.

My own advice on choosing a school is attend open days, speak to current parents and never listen to gossip.

Re: Bolingbroke has it's first Ofsted rating

by ANNA MARIA » Thu Oct 16, 2014 11:42 am

I am still of the opinion that it is an excellent school and we are lucky to have such an aspirational state school on our doorstep. The teachers really care and go the extra mile to help the children achieve their levels. The teaching is first rate and as a parent you have a clear idea on what your child is covering in each subject area and you (and your child) are given clear guidelines on where they are and what they need to do to reach their targets. On the Open Day last week there were lots of children and parents taking part. I am not sure how it compares to Graveney apart from Bolingbroke being smaller and therefore your child is less likely to 'disappear' in fact I know one child has recently moved from Graveney to Bolingbroke and is much happier at Bolingbroke. In the end it depends on your child I guess. All I do know is that the teaching is excellent and the ethos aspirational. An excellent education for all. How does it compare to local independents? it is a fully comprehensive state school so the social mix is a lot more diverse than local independent schools and that can be an issue for some parents.

Re: Bolingbroke has it's first Ofsted rating

by ouided01 » Thu Oct 16, 2014 10:09 am

Anna Maria,

Are you still of the opinion Bolingbroke is an outstanding school? I am interested in parents view who already have children in there. I went to an Open day last week ( although I couldn't stay for the tour ). The headteacher's talk was Ok, although I was surprised no children took part in it, unlike most independent schools do. There were no children's work on walls, we have been told this was for some admin reasons, but they will be able to hang stuff from next year. How well are bright children stretched? How does it compare to Graveney and independent schools in the area? In the absence of results it's really hard to make a judgement, but I heard good feedback so far.
Thank you

Re: Bolingbroke has it's first Ofsted rating

by livegreen » Tue Feb 04, 2014 10:59 pm

livegreen wrote:Had dinner last night with a senior Ofsted official and this report came up as did the changing criteria Ofsted use to judge schools.
A couple of points is that Ofsted use data, and in particular progress of children, a lot more now and often have a grade in their head before they arrive at the school, they then find evidence to back up the grade. The data provided will indicate if a school has relaxed too much or is not keeping data correctly - this would lead to a requires improvement in most cases.
The new Ofsted criteria is much tougher and most schools will drop at least a grade with new criteria compared to old (unless of course they have improved).
The inspectors have been told only to give an outstanding where everything is outstanding and there is a lot of data(again) to back up progress over every year group over a couple of years - so really difficult for schools which have improved quickly, have new head teacher, or are new schools to get an outstanding grade.
Her advice was the same that many people have given here, visit the school, talk to the parents, read the Ofsted report (bearing in mind when inspection took place), talk to the teachers and read Parent View.
Her feeling on schools similar to Ravenestone was that this could be the wake up call they need and that they can quickly return to good/outstanding with correct leadership.
I wrote this last year during the debate on Ravenstone's OFSTED and from other discussions I had over the Christmas holidays, and from what has been in the press recently I would confirm that OFSTED should only be one part of the evidence that parents look at.
Having said that I have just read the OFSTED report from the Bolingbroke and it is clearly an excellent school with the foundations in place to be outstanding soon, if not already as the pointers given by OFSTED are easily implemented. The good rating also means OFSTED will be back in 3 years which for a new school is actually rather a positive thing.
I would advise anyone judging a school to visit it, talk to the staff, the current parents as well as reading the OFSTED report.
My own discussions with parents with children at the Bolingbroke Academy support and echo what the parents like Anna Maria say on this thread.

Re: Bolingbroke has it's first Ofsted rating

by The NSC » Tue Feb 04, 2014 9:50 pm

ANNA MARIA, based on evidence and apologies for any repetition:

1. The OFSTED report flagged the issue of gifted kids

2. OFSTED has tightened up but if the WLFS can achieve outstanding in a category then no reason why an ARK school should not? The WLFS came from a standing start. ARK has substantial resource and track record behind it.

3. The issue of the governing body is a simple matter of numbers. ARK has an overwhelming controlling majority, either via appointment or as direct employees. It is not democratic. Other large academy chains are not as prescriptive in their absolute control. Governance is an important issue in relation to holding the head and SMT to account. The ARK model is far from best practice. This was confirmed to me by someone at the DFE some while ago.

I don't think the school is doing a bad job. I just think it could be doing better.

Re: Bolingbroke has it's first Ofsted rating

by ANNA MARIA » Tue Feb 04, 2014 4:24 pm

As a parent of secondary school children I have experienced two ‘outstanding’ state secondary schools and I can honestly say that Bolingbroke is as every bit as ‘outstanding’ if indeed not more so than these other schools, hence my surprise when they were not awarded ‘outstanding’ at first go. Apparently OFSTED stated that under previous guidelines Bolingbroke would have been ‘outstanding’ but new criteria do not allow a school with one year’s data to be so.

In terms of more able pupils being stretched I believe they are. Every pupil is expected to make 3 levels of progress per academic year instead of the national average of 2 levels and teachers work hard to achieve this goal. This combined with a jam-packed time table of extra curricular enrichment activities, music lessons, reading groups, family dining etc leads to a really calm, happy, safe environment where the pupils learn and flourish. One brilliant thing they do at Bolingbroke is invite parents (by arrangement) to visit on a Friday morning. You attend an assembly and then have free rein to observe any lessons you wish finishing with joining everyone for ‘family dining’. Here you see the ethos of the school in practice. Calm, well structured lessons with engaged kids – really what more could you ask for? If all state schools were like Bolingbroke there would be less need for the private sector.

Regarding the Governing Body it is my understanding that there are 3 parents on the governing body plus a local councillor and the current ‘chair’ (ARK) is just temporary whilst the normal ‘chair’ (NON ARK) is working abroad for one year.

Re: Bolingbroke has it's first Ofsted rating

by The NSC » Mon Feb 03, 2014 7:14 pm

A long time ago, in the summer of 2009, I had the idea for what is now the Bolingbroke Academy, after a conversation with a neighbour about the lack of a local secondary school. We then were very lucky to find ourselves in the right place at the right time over the coming months, enabling the school to open in Sept 2012. Today I have no connection with the school.

In terms of its first OFSTED report, as a previous poster has said, its ok but not great. It would have been good to see at least one of the categories judged 'outstanding'. Even Toby Young managed that with his Free School. Equally, while its great to see the bottom of the tail making 'rapid progress' (kind of why ARK was established, closing the attainment gap), its a shame to see the 'gifted' kids are not being stretched. This is touched on a couple of times in the OFSTED report.

What I don't think helps at all, is the fact that ARK has a majority control of the schools governing body. The current Chair for example works at ARK. Generally turkeys don't vote for Xmas and personally I think this is a weak link in the ARK model. There is no meaningful external oversight on what the head and SMT are doing. In effect its a closed shop.

So in school parlance, a respectable 'B' with a 'could do better'. Which is pretty much what the OFSTED report says I think.

Jon De Maria

Re: Bolingbroke has it's first Ofsted rating

by The NSC » Mon Feb 03, 2014 7:10 pm

A long time ago, in the summer of 2009, I had the idea for what is now the Bolingbroke Academy, after a conversation with a neighbour about the lack of a local secondary school. We then were very lucky to find ourselves in the right place at the right time over the coming months, enabling the school to open in Sept 2012. Today I have no connection with the school.

In terms of its first OFSTED report, as a previous poster has said, its ok but not great. It would have been good to see at least one of the categories judged 'outstanding'. Even Toby Young managed that with his Free School. Equally, while its great to see the bottom of the tail making 'rapid progress' (kind of why ARK was established, closing the attainment gap), its a shame to see the 'gifted' kids are not being stretched. This is touched on a couple of times in the OFSTED report.

What I don't think helps at all, is the fact that ARK has a majority control of the schools governing body. The current Chair for example works at ARK. Generally turkeys don't vote for Xmas and personally I think this is a weak link in the ARK model. There is no meaningful external oversight on what the head and SMT are doing. In effect its a closed shop.

So in school parlance, a respectable 'B' with a 'could do better'. Which is pretty much what the OFSTED report says I think.

Re: Bolingbroke has it's first Ofsted rating

by Bleu Widley » Sat Feb 01, 2014 2:42 am

I know a young lad who went to Bollingbroke and he went from a child with real issues in learning and behaviour to a child who was excelling in class.

I hope they can continue such work.

Re: Bolingbroke has it's first Ofsted rating

by wasateacher » Mon Jan 20, 2014 11:51 am

Unfortunately, the changes in the Ofsted regime just indicate that it is not a reliable way of judging the school. Battersea Park School fell foul of the changes and there were so many inaccuracies in the inspection report that it was shameful.

I am glad that I am not in the position of having to choose a school. Exam results need considerable analysis before they tell you anything and the latest Ofsted reports cannot be compared with those from the last academic year. The league tables have, unfortunately, encouraged some schools to "game" or, sadly, even cheat.

My advice in choosing schools is to try to visit and choose one you and/or your child feel comfortable in. Ignore uniforms (unless you particularly feel attached to them), look for celebrations of children's work in displays.

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