Ratski,
“Nothing that was said during the referendum had any impact on my decision. I knew which way I was going to vote when I was 16 studying alevel politics and in the twenty odd years since this position has only been hardened. “
No ****!
“Since the vote we have seen plans for an EU army come in to full force (another Clegg lie)” LIE ALERT.
“ and the only reason Turkey’s EU membership plans have been put on hold is because Erdogan’s mask has fallen and we all see him as the Islamic version of Hitler that he is.” ANOTHER LIE ALERT. Countries can apply all they like but Turkey membership was always a long way away.
The problem here is lies and lack of responsibility and Daily Mail style of blaming someone for what happens to me. Surely, it must be someone else’s fault.
Your solution:
“Anyhow on to the deal that I want. It would be a simple free trade agreement with no ties or fee movement of people and an agreement with Ireland on the border issue with a similar electronic border system to that in place between Switzerland and its surrounding EU states.” TRUTH ALERT: THERE IS NOT ‘SIMPLE FREE TRADE AGREEMENT’ WITH THE EU JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE BRITISH.
There is not even Norway +. It was never on the cards. The UK made it up. There is no Canada ++++. You think Norway and Canada will allow it? You STILL really think other countries will bow to the UK? Honestly? There is EU OR non EU with WTO tariffs which will eventually become Canada =
You do not talk about economic cost of the Canada= agreement. The impact of tariffs, the impact of companies leaving the UK in a (surprise surprise!) global economy. Have you heard about Brexiteer Dyson moving to Singapore?
Much of the City of London that so much money provides in tax collection will also move. You think Europe is going to let us manage their money when you leave the EU and become a ‘tax haven”?
Re the PM, again, do your research properly. Theresa May is a europhile in her freaking dreams. Maybe for the economic advantage she may get but she is a proper xenophobic ultra-nationalist. Just read about Windrush (lovely Theresa’s doing), Europeans jumping the queue (of course the British should be allowed to be expats because the world needs us but who needs European’s expats, right? We will manage their money, they just need to keep quiet…)
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... rorism-law
So is Corbyn if you ask me…but maybe not at this level...
I am all for understanding human nature and I suspect Ratski, there is something more in your xenophobia. Did the handsome Dutch (male or female, who knows, and obviously tall, not that I like them tall personally) never call back?
What I hate the most about the world these days is people’s lack of responsibility. If I was in Government I would ask all those Leavers MPs and the press spreading lies to sign a piece of paper taking responsibility (including economic responsibility) for what they promise. The same with global warming in general. Those who deny it should take responsibility if their irresponsible behaviour ends up causing us human and financial loss.
I personally think we need to crash out of the EU and pay the consequences. It is the only way this very boring debate may possibly end. But let me guess Ratski, when that happens you will blame the EU? As you blame the EU for the UK’s state of democracy:
“It was never going to be easy extracting ourselves from such an organisation that over years has sucked the life out of our democracy and left us with the current crop of wets occupying Parliament.”
