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lula
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Orthodontist

Postby lula » Mon Jan 26, 2015 10:27 am

Please can anyone recommend a good orthodontist for braces. Sadly don't qualify for NHS. It's an expensive business so have been told to shop around.
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Postby BFW » Mon Jan 26, 2015 11:20 am

Hi Lula,

I just posted last week to ask if anyone had used SWSmiles on Queentowns Road. Braces are so expensive so I am also hoping to get some recommendations ! There is also a place on Battersea Rise - has anyone been there ?

Hope to get some feedback too.

BW
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Postby MrsOctober » Mon Jan 26, 2015 11:58 am

I live BTC but I went to Dr Neil Counihan, at Metamorphosis in Fulham. They're just a stone's throw from the top of Wandsworth Bridge Rd. Parking is easy. Appointments are always quick and they run very close to time. He was highly recommended by my dentist and several other people I know and I was so pleased I took their advice. He's wonderful and I'm thrilled with the result.
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Re: Orthodontist

Postby ZCB » Mon Feb 02, 2015 7:24 am

We have used two orthodontists, both of whom I would highly recommend:

Stephen Powell in Raynes Park (used to be head of the unit at Georges) and also
Theo Swaneapool at Perfect Smile in Putney High Street. Charming people, very good at their jobs. Stephen does staged payments as well
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Re: Orthodontist

Postby foxyfriend » Mon Feb 02, 2015 7:38 am

Trinity Fields Dental Practice on Trinity Road....(Selina Sufraz) ...I had mine done there a year or so ago and she was fantastic.
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Re: Orthodontist

Postby Cleod » Mon Feb 02, 2015 8:08 am

Hello,
I am an orthodontist, I work at Confidental Clinic on St John's Road.
I work Thursday Evenings 5-9pm.
It is a good idea to not only find a practice that is convenient and reasonably priced but someone you are comfortable to have your treatment with.

The practice number is 020 7801 9060 if you would like to book in for a consultation.

Good luck!

Cleopatra Darwish
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Re: Orthodontist

Postby Michele 8 » Mon Feb 02, 2015 10:14 am

My children were referred to an orthodontist in Wimbledon. £3000 each but my husband was just made redundant so we said no and were referred to the Orthodontic Practice at Battersea. Dr Moganchi finally accepted my daughter for NHS treatment which was fantastic. Dr Adil Mannen treated her and he was very prompt and to the point. Nice chap too.
Then my son was referred to 1A Orthodontist near our house. DR KATE BORHAN treated my son on NHS and she was absolutely lovely too.

There are NHS guidelines but it seems from my experience that it boils down to the orthodonist. We were very lucky. There is also an ortho in Shepherds Bush that is very lenient about accepting NHS patients. Worth the initial consultation. Good luck!
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Postby Annabel (admin) » Mon Feb 02, 2015 11:57 am

Hi Lula,

My son has recently had braces fitted by Amina at Glow dental and I couldn't be more pleased. She has been fab in terms of the treatment process, explaining to him what to eat, how to look after his teeth etc and her manner is lovely!

I agree with Cleod, convenience is a big plus in this process. He has already managed to break a bracket and being able to pop in to have it sorted was a quick diversion as opposed to a major rejig of mine and Mr NVN's diaries.

They are open late on Thursdays evenings and some Sat mornings but I'm not sure of all the details.

Hope that helps.

A
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Re: Orthodontist

Postby MumOfTeens » Mon Jun 08, 2015 10:51 pm

Dear Lulu

My advice would be to visit a few and see who you feel comfortable with and don't be tempted to go the NHS route if it involves what seems to be unnecessary invasive work. As a local mum I have heard good and bad stories of many local orthodontics, reading between the lines of my dentist's recommendations I spread my search wider.

My daughter has had superb treatment from Claire Nightingale at Queens Gate Orthodontics, 75A Queen's Gate, London SW7 5JT - a welcoming and extremely efficient all lady practice who don't make us feel we are on a production line. The trip to South Kensington is quicker than I realised and parking is right outside, a breath of fresh air!
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Re: Orthodontist

Postby tooposhtopush » Tue Jun 09, 2015 7:06 am

Glow on Northcote Road.

They're qualified orthodontists (which is different from most mentioned as most dentists have an "interest in orthodontistry" but they're not qualified).

I agree with other posters, visit a few, check out their "bedside manner" and then ask how qualified they are...
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Re: Orthodontist

Postby Cleod » Tue Jun 09, 2015 7:24 am

Yes quite a few general dentists do some sort of orthodontics which are quick fixes or minor cosmetic work and have done small courses in that remit. Orthodontists do that too, but can also correct the bite and manage the development of teeth, jaws and face. I doubt you'll find a general dentist doing child orthodontics, they are not qualified to do that. All the orthodontists mentioned on this thread have done postgraduate degrees in orthodontics and are qualified specialists. Also, you're not necessarily going to get a better job by going privately rather than on the NHS, you just might get more convenient appointment times and a brace with a nicer appearance.
A lot to think about!!
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Postby MumOfTeens » Tue Jun 09, 2015 8:14 am

I know some private orthodontists do NHS work. My experience was I felt I was being offered NHS treatment over private so the orthodontist would get the work as for me it was free, they will get paid one way or the other.

The NHS treatment involved removing 6 teeth (2 second and 4 first) and using braces to fill the gaps which qualifies for NHS where as to leave all teeth and use regular braces did not. I guess if we are lucky enough to choose we can.
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Re: Orthodontist

Postby Cleod » Thu Jun 11, 2015 7:28 am

Hi again, ok so I do work in the NHS ( not at a practice anywhere near our area though). So I'll try to explain as much as I can how it works.
Under 18s are entitled to free NHS treatment if their teeth are deemed severe enough under strict guidelines which is well established index of treatment need and it is literally down to the millimetre. If you come under the borderline category then the teeth are assessed by appearance and compared to an aesthetic chart- this aspect is quite subjective though but often I ask my patients to see where they think they fit on this chart and they agree with me, so this way I feel I am being fair!
Some orthodontic practices have traditionally big NHS contracts just based on what was commissioned to them some time ago, if they have a problem fulfilling those contracts then the orthodontist might prefer for you to have treatment under the NHS, otherwise by the end of the year their contract may be reduced. However if the NHS contract isn't big, or it is a well known practice that a lot of dentists refer to or as often the case- it is well known that it is a good practice so patients prefer that practice over another one, then they will have a waiting list for NHS treatment.
This is where private orthodontics now comes in, if you don't want to wait on a waiting list, or your teeth aren't deemed severe enough to qualify for NHS treatment or you want appointment times outside NHS hours, or you want a brace that is more aesthetic and obviously more expensive then that is where you can consider private treatment. But to say to a patient that if you pay for your treatment I can save you from having teeth out or if you pay for a certain brace we can get your teeth straighter is pretty unethical in my view. There are some exceptions where it comes to perhaps if you were born with missing teeth and the milk teeth are of good quality and it is the option of whether to save them or not.
NHS treatment is also often closely audited, so we have to prove to the ones giving us the contracts that we are doing a good job- sometimes a task that is very difficult to do because that also relies on good patient compliance! But my point is you are actually very likely to get a good result in the NHS!
Some NHS orthodontists like myself also work in practices where they only offer private treatment, simply because they don't have an NHS contract there to offer private treatment. When I see a child in my private clinic that would qualify for NHS treatment if they went to another practice I do tell them that, but usually they have decided by then that they actually want private treatment.
I hope I have managed to explain NHS and private orthodontics a little, if anyon has questions please feel free to message me.
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Re: Orthodontist

Postby 1sttimemummy » Thu Jun 11, 2015 9:02 am

Hi,

I hope you don't mind me jumping on this post but I've been following it, as I'm interested in getting braces done myself.

Cleod... Can I ask your advice please?
I had braces fitted when I was around 17 on the NHS (my teeth were pretty bad, apparently would have cost £7,000 if I had gone private)! My treatment was stopped half way through and I never had the bottom brace fitted, they removed the top brace and left me to it. However, 20 years on my teeth are actually moving back to the original wonky position and I'm paranoid about it. I have been told by my local dentist I would not qualify for NHS treatment. Is there any way the NHS would even pay towards treatment? Or as an adult does this mean all orthodontic work is considered aesthetic?

I'd appreciate any advice please.
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Re: Orthodontist

Postby Cleod » Thu Jun 11, 2015 9:12 am

Hi firsttimemummy,
As a general rule adult orthodontics isn't available on the NHS no matter how severe, the only exception to this is if you need surgery to correct your bite, then the surgery and the orthodontics are covered by the NHS but in the hospital services not in an orthodontic practice.
You could ask your dentist to refer you to the hospital and if they feel you are severe enough.
Good luck!
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