Explain this London at tier 4 with all the hype,why was biggest virus hospital emptied and closed,with more cases? Post Reply

[dudette]

I find it quite sinister the attempts to moderate free discussion on a topic that is having such a huge impact on all our lives.

I have seen this twice now on here and another national forum I browse in the last week.

To request that only ‘qualified’ people can now post on the internet. George Orwell would be proud of you.

There's free speech and then there's sinister conspiracy theories. The thing is, if you believe that the moon landings were faked or that the US government were behind 9/11 then you're an idiot but it doesn't really matter much to the rest of us. If you believe that Covid is a hoax, mask-wearing is a form of social control and that the vaccination is actually to inject us with some sort of mind-control drug (or whatever) then you might not wear a mask, you might not socially distance, you might not care about infecting other people and other people might die. So your post saying that the pandemic is a hoax could actually kill people. And it just means the wretched pandemic goes on longer, and we have to have more controls on our lives. So yes, sometimes a bit of removal of fake news is necessary for the benefit of society, just as you have to wear a seat-belt and you're not allowed to smoke in a restaurant. 

[Starr]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-54738471

The son of a conspiracy theorist -covid denier, anti vaccine and just general attention seeker

[hawkes]

I find it quite sinister the attempts to moderate free discussion on a topic that is having such a huge impact on all our lives.

I have seen this twice now on here and another national forum I browse in the last week.

To request that only ‘qualified’ people can now post on the internet. George Orwell would be proud of you.

OK - then complete idiots who deny there is a problem should be allowed to be called out

[Ratski]

I find it quite sinister the attempts to moderate free discussion on a topic that is having such a huge impact on all our lives.

I have seen this twice now on here and another national forum I browse in the last week.

To request that only ‘qualified’ people can now post on the internet. George Orwell would be proud of you.

There's free speech and then there's sinister conspiracy theories. The thing is, if you believe that the moon landings were faked or that the US government were behind 9/11 then you're an idiot but it doesn't really matter much to the rest of us. If you believe that Covid is a hoax, mask-wearing is a form of social control and that the vaccination is actually to inject us with some sort of mind-control drug (or whatever) then you might not wear a mask, you might not socially distance, you might not care about infecting other people and other people might die. So your post saying that the pandemic is a hoax could actually kill people. And it just means the wretched pandemic goes on longer, and we have to have more controls on our lives. So yes, sometimes a bit of removal of fake news is necessary for the benefit of society, just as you have to wear a seat-belt and you're not allowed to smoke in a restaurant. 

No one has even mentioned any conspiracy theories on this thread other than Dudettes wild and slanderous allegations. The only slightly controversial posts question the narrative that we are relentlessly bombarded with from the media 24/7.

It’s a perfectly normal thing for people who have had their lives put on hold for a virus that 99% will survive, 85% of those with no symptoms at all and one that you need a test for most to know we have even had it.

What fuels the conspiracy theories is people demanding censure and control of covid topics when none is required. These methods now been used by some to silence debate have been used time and time again when discussing other controversial topics in the past. Questioning covid is the new ‘bigoted women’ or ‘climate denier’.

[Annabel (admin)]

Please can we stay on topic otherwise I will have to lock this thread. 

The OP asked about the Nightingale Hospitals.

Many thanks and wishing that you all stay safe,


A x

[dudette]

Ratski - there was nothing slanderous in my post. I was using “you”and “your” in the general sense, not referring to you specifically. There are plenty of conspiracy theories about Covid doing the rounds. The OP seemed to be suggesting that the fact the Nightingale Hospital in London has closed down suggests that there is something we are not being told about the disease and this links with the fake news that is being posted about empty hospital wards. You may decide it’s not a conspiracy theory but it’s damaging and as we’ve seen by the demonstrations by maskless Covidiots around the world demanding an end to lockdowns, these posts have dangerous consequences. Only a few days ago there was a bunch of maskless idiots protesting outside St Thomas’s hospital. Today’s papers are reporting that doctors are debunking all the hoax claims that hospital wards are empty. By quoting those statistics (which I question but that’s beside the point) you seem to be suggesting that Covid is not a serious disease. That probably says enough but if denying Covid is the new “climate denial” then you’re absolutely right - because both Covid and climate change are real.

[Indy235]

People are being ignorant if they think COVID isn’t real. I know many people who didn’t get it first time round and following the same procedure but have caught it this time around so it seems to be more easily transmitted. One couple who have been shielding & having their shopping delivered have it now. The wife was take to C&W hosp due to breathing problems as St.G’s is full!
We know nurses & doctors who are struggling to cope but not giving up. It’s difficult all round & we should be realistic. No need to scaremonger but people are just not taking it seriously until it affects them or a loved one

[Indy235]

Ps. I Also questioned why the Nightingale wasn’t being used and was told it was because they don’t have enough staff