mother in law Xmas nightmare

47 posts
kewty
Posts: 161
Joined: Oct 2010
Options:
Share this post on:

Re: mother in law Xmas nightmare

Postby kewty » Tue Dec 13, 2011 8:27 pm

I would talk to your husband, let him know your feelings about this, and ask him if he could act as a buffer every time your MIL sends a missile your way. At the end of the day you are his wife, and he needs to be supportive to you.

Friends of ours were in exactly the same position as you, and hubby had no idea of her feelings, but as soon as they talked about it, he was incredibly supportive, and eventually told his mother to back off or loose his family.

Good luck and I hope you have a very merry Christmas.
Kx
Post Reply
mumble
Posts: 129
Joined: Mar 2010
Options:
Share this post on:

Re: mother in law Xmas nightmare

Postby mumble » Wed Dec 14, 2011 1:09 pm

to those of the 'suck it up it's Christmas' school of thought I think I'll share a recent day with my MIL (after all it's cathartic and I havn't posted here for a while ;)

Earlier this year we had to spend a whole day with the extended family, (MIL, her daughters and their children) this was something we had previously resolved to avoid as much as possible because of her behaviour towards our children when they are with their cousins!
The settings are slightly false but the events are true.

The signs were not good, she had bought all the cousins new outfits lets pretend they were red which they wore, she then spent considerable time at top volume telling others on the tour we were on how wonderful the children wearing red were, they were her grandchildren and she was so proud of them, they were such clever children, such outdoor children (obviously coming from London ours live in some carbon monoxide fulled bubble and have never even seen a blade of grass :x ) blah blah blah this was all said in front of my children who were old enough to understand.

Then we went on our tour at no time did she speak to, walk with or interact with my children in any way until snacktime when she pulled out 4 large bars of chocolates (how did you guess we were with 4 cousins) these she proceeded to hand out to 3 cousins, one of mine asked for the 4th but she said no turned around walked over to cousin 4 and said x can have it sorry I havn't got enough.
On we went, one of our children wasn't feeling well so we were walking slowly with them the others were all in a big marquee, which we ended up walking around to try and find the door as we did this we heard MIL say 'go away x and don't come back there isn't room for you here' x is my child and we arrived to find him running out of the marquee in tears because of what he had been told.

A bit later we all sat down to have a snack and some biscuits were given to the children SIL ensured all of the children were offered a biscuit, there were 3 spare so 3 children were given an extra one, cousin walked up with no biscuit (he hadn't wanted one) and MIL snatches the biscuit out of 1 childs hand to give to cousin, yes you've guessed it the biscuit was snatched from my child not either of the two cousins who had one.
At this point I'd had enough and asked my husband if he had seen that and told him he had to say something since it was his Mother, so we talk about it fairly loudly. I think trying to see if she will say anything but she doesn't so in the end my husband says don't take the biscuit from x, which she scoffs at with much eyebrow raising and huffing and puffing then denies.
Unable to stop myself I say something along the line of 'really everyone saw you snatch a biscuit from a small child , please don't do that a grown adult should know better'. She starts shouting at me, the older children and cousins go into another room followed by aunt and MIL. I then hear aunt and MIL say to my child: 'x that's not what happened, go and tell your Mum your grandmother didn't snatch the biscuit, she didn't snatch the biscuit from you you know that'

I have really had it by this stage so walk in take my child by the hand and drag him outside saying to Aunt as we pass 'I saw what happened with my own eyes as did everyone else, please don't try and tell my children to lie' unsurprisingly MIL follows me out hurling abuse.

So that was a completely typical selection of a day with my MIL, all those things (apart from her verbally abusing me) have happened before and all of those things happened in 1 day, actually in public. I have worried about our relationship for some time and turned to various parenting forums for ideas, hence my 'decision' to say something this time, my children are getting older and there had recently been lots of comments along the lines of 'if you don't stand up fro your children who will.' On one someone listed the 'good' characteristics of grandparents: phone up to see how your children are, talk to them, babysit if able, give them little gifts just because etc etc. This made me realise that she is none of these to my children, it was also pointed out that as an adult I don't have to be in the company of people who abuse me nor is it healthy to.

When we got back home in the light of above I told my husband that clearly it is unacceptable to be treated like that and that I will not see his Mother again, she is not welcome in my home and I will not be organising for the children to go and see her (I get lumbered with all the organising) if he wishes to take them to see her i will not stop him, I will not go but that he needs to think about her behaviour, that it will not change and he needs to stand up for his children.

I do worry that I am depriving them of a lovely nuturing relationship with their grandmother, that it is in some way my fault, that I am causing a breakdown in his relationship with his parents etc etc.

Anyway we shall see, if I thought about it some more I'd probably realise that she has some kind of personality disorder there is clearly more going on. SIL denies that her Mother treats our children differently (her husband can see it), yet clearly had mine been bonkers enough to buy one set red outfits there is no way I would dress them in them for a day with their red outfitless cousins, my husabnd has failed to 'deal with' her behaviour in any way as an adult so that wont change, in fact the whole family admits privately that she has never been stood up to. Previously I could never keep up with whether she was talking to her own sister or not (funnily always the sisters fault).
I feel happier that I no longer have to see her apart from the nagging worry that I am the one depriving my children of a relationship with their grandmother.
I think her behaviour is extreme and I just wanted others to see that not all MIL should be put up with, I'd like to know what others would do should their MIL stand and scream abuse at them?
Post Reply
supergirl
Posts: 1287
Joined: May 2011
Options:
Share this post on:

Re: mother in law Xmas nightmare

Postby supergirl » Wed Dec 14, 2011 1:24 pm

With all due respects Mumble, what you are describing is a complete different situation.
This is a blatant example of unacceptable behaviour from a grandmother (or any adults) towards children (who also happen to be her grandchildren too, if I understood correctly).
In this case I am totally agreeing with the NO SUCKING IT UP and god forbid any of my in-laws or my own family do that to any of my kids or to any children in front of me because this would go well.
In the instance of OP, my view was that yes this is not nice, maybe there are reasons behind it maybe not, but this is something little that can be joked about once she is gone so yes suck it up in my view.
I have to suck it up any time my mum is around and this is more than once a year :lol: The OP should laugh about it and not taking it personnally.
Post Reply
supergirl
Posts: 1287
Joined: May 2011
Options:
Share this post on:

Re: mother in law Xmas nightmare

Postby supergirl » Wed Dec 14, 2011 1:29 pm

PS: Mumble, you are not depriving your children from a nurturing relationship with their grandmother. She is obviously NOT trying to have a relationship with them. You are right to protect them from her.
Post Reply
mumble
Posts: 129
Joined: Mar 2010
Options:
Share this post on:

Re: mother in law Xmas nightmare

Postby mumble » Thu Dec 15, 2011 12:19 pm

Sure supergirl but to be fair we have no idea what the problems are with the OPs MIL, didn't it just say she was pushy? But then mentioned constant criticism.

I just posted about my MIL because this is relatively recent but her behaviour has been hanging over us for years, as you can imagine I have worried and worried about what to do and found ideas on other forums so thought it might one day interest someone

(well really I find it cathartic :lol: )

I had no idea how some people could behave my own Mother was extremely lucky in getting a huge amount of support from her parents/and parents in law, it surprises me how little some people in our generation get!!
Post Reply
https://merrygoround.club/
https://www.thecrooshhub.com/
http://www.ameliesfollies.co.uk/
https://www.batchandthyme.com
https://www.westminster-wealth.com/andrew-rankin-enquiries
https://nappyvalleynet.com/wellbeing-guide
https://www.thedogfatheruk.com/
http://www.ayrtonbespoke.com/
https://frameless.com/?utm_source=NVN&utm_medium=banner&utm_campaign=Opening_Campaign&utm_id=HPB
https://paintthetowngreen.biz
https://nappyvalleynet.com/summer-camps/
https://visitclaphamjunction.com/
https://thebronteclinic.com/
https://www.youbeyou.co.uk/
https://maroconstruction.co.uk/
https://theluxurytravelboutique.com/offers/
https://cookingattheshed.co.uk/
https://www.thesmartclinics.co.uk/
CHT
Posts: 91
Joined: Jan 2010
Options:
Share this post on:

Re: mother in law Xmas nightmare

Postby CHT » Thu Dec 15, 2011 3:15 pm

Rosess suggestion sounds good to me.
Post Reply
NYE31
Posts: 737
Joined: Dec 2010
Options:
Share this post on:

Re: mother in law Xmas nightmare

Postby NYE31 » Fri Dec 16, 2011 9:19 pm

I have been reading all these posts & I now think my MIL must have countless doubles. I promised myself before my son was born I would never behave like her. No doubt she will try & ruin our son's baptism on Sunday but given she has just had purple highlights done, she might raise a few eyebrows as she did at our Wedding when she wore various shades of head to toe purple & 149 people were in fits of laughter!!
Post Reply
cosmopolitanmum
Posts: 178
Joined: Nov 2010
Options:
Share this post on:

Re: mother in law Xmas nightmare

Postby cosmopolitanmum » Fri Dec 16, 2011 10:33 pm

I know nobody wants to hear this and so I hesitated about writing for fear of sounding "preachy" ...but...when I read all these entries I couldn't help but feel bad for all these Mothers in law! I am sure they dont make your lives easy, but think about it from their point of view. They have devoted their lives to their son(s) and then this other new woman comes along and takes all his attention. Now you dont even want to see them once a year at Christmas! I am sure they aren't kind to you but if you have son(s) then maybe try and cut them some slack. You never know what kind of woman your son will choose to marry - and karma has a funny way of working itself out!
Sorry if I dont seem very sympathetic but i think you should try and be the bigger person - otherwise you are just as bad as your Mother in law!
Post Reply
juliantenniscoach
Posts: 2304
Joined: Oct 2009
Options:
Share this post on:

Re: mother in law Xmas nightmare

Postby juliantenniscoach » Sat Dec 17, 2011 9:00 am

I think it depends on the level of agitation. Some of the posts here have detailed nothing short of downright rudeness, cruelty even. I wouldn't expect my wife to put up with that from anyone, especially my own family. I should say that my parents have passed away and my IL's are great so I'm not in this situation.

However if it's just being picky, mildly irritating, overbearing, fussy then maybe that's a case for "the greater good", especially where there are children. Speak to your partners and get a gauge as to what is a reasonable course of action.

Either way I wish you all a very Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.
Post Reply
https://theluxurytravelboutique.com/offers/
https://maroconstruction.co.uk/
https://nappyvalleynet.com/summer-camps/
https://nappyvalleynet.com/wellbeing-guide
https://merrygoround.club/
https://cookingattheshed.co.uk/
amybelle79
Posts: 62
Joined: Jul 2011
Options:
Share this post on:

Re: mother in law Xmas nightmare

Postby amybelle79 » Mon Dec 19, 2011 10:16 am

Hi All,

I know this thread has been running for a while, but while everyone is sharing their MIL stories I feel I must join in!!

I have a story to share... will try to keep it short and sweet

I am pregnant and currently suffering from ante natal depression. My MIL, previously fairly kind and well behaved made a point of sitting and talking to me about her own experiences of depression - being very understanding and sympathetic. Three days later she had a party which we all went to, including my sister and a few friends. It got late so I went off to bed, leaving everyone else to carry on drinking. After an hour or so, unable to sleep I heard someone crying out in the garden and looked out to see my little sister there, very upset. It turns out that MIL had sat down with sister to set her straight on all the things that are wrong with me. Namely...
I am spoilt, greedy and money grabbing - poor husband has to pay for everything.
I have no cause to be depressed - I should take a good look at myself and realise how lucky I am to have such a wonderful husband
I am making her poor saintly son miserable - he has no joy in his eyes and looks pale and thin (bad wife not feeding him properly)
If I dont want the baby I should just have an abortion and stop being selfish and making everyone else miserable.
She doesnt give a damn about me or my health - all she cares about is protecting her dear son from a lazy, miserable good for nothing wife - he would be better off without me

Why she made such a show of being friendly and supportive only a few days earlier, and why she chose to share her feelings with my dear sister I dont know. I was keen to put it down to nasty drunken-ness but when confronted by my husband in the morning and again the following day she carried on in the same vein - insisting that I am basically a selfish greedy cow that doesnt deserve him.

Unfortunately all this affected me quite badly - several session spent picking it apart with my counsellor, several almighty rows with husband, sleepless nights, panic attacks etc etc. If she had puled this little stunt at any other time I like to think I would be strong enough to laugh it off, but I am not really myself at the moment

She was asked to apologise by my husband, which she hasnt really done - although has made a great show of going to see a counsellor herself as she hasnt been sleeping well!!

I have said that for the sake of my daughter and my husband, and this baby I am carrying I want to move on past it and try to get along. After all she is his mother and isnt going anywhere, and I am the woman he has chosen to spend his life with - and I'm not budging either! I am going to be the bigger person, kill her with kindness blah bloody blah blah

....But its easier said than done. Why do we always have to be the bigger person? When is it out turn to be treated with grace? Why do I have to put all my hurt aside for the good of everyone else? Why is more important for everyone else to be happy? It feels like she has behaved badly but because she is his sainted blood related mother she can get away with it. To me, it feels like has has won.

And I have to go to her house for christmas! I am starting to feel the panic rising and feel physically sick when I think of having to spend a whole day at her house. I honestly dont know how I'm going to get through it.

Sorry, not very short or sweet but maybe it helps to know that there are other women out here, trying to to do the right thing and feeling crap about it. The problem with love and motherhood is that it seems to be part of the job description that we are often last in the pecking order. Of course there are times when its right to put others first, but I also think as mothers we have to pick the moments for us to come first. I suppose this christmas isnt my turn.

There is always next year - and it will be 100% on my terms then. I might demand to be taken to the maldives or something!
Post Reply
amybelle79
Posts: 62
Joined: Jul 2011
Options:
Share this post on:

Re: mother in law Xmas nightmare

Postby amybelle79 » Mon Dec 19, 2011 10:18 am

Sorry, thats an awfully long post. What a terrible bore I am!! Quite cathartic though.

Is it bad etiquette to write really long posts??!
Post Reply
kiwimummy
Posts: 414
Joined: Feb 2011
Options:
Share this post on:

Re: mother in law Xmas nightmare

Postby kiwimummy » Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:27 pm

amybelle and the OP, your MILs sound HORRIBLE. i wish you could get out of going there for Xmas!

i think we should make an effort with MILs in general, but there are some very nasty ones out there who seem so toxic it's not worth the bother.

i'm haven't been very keen on my MIL, but my complaints are very petty compared to some others on this thread. i am seeing her in a new light - it could be so much worse!
Post Reply
Pud1
Posts: 323
Joined: Jul 2010
Options:
Share this post on:

Re: mother in law Xmas nightmare

Postby Pud1 » Fri Dec 30, 2011 10:33 am

So........how did Christmas with the mother in laws go?
Post Reply
https://www.thecrooshhub.com/
https://paintthetowngreen.biz
https://www.thedogfatheruk.com/
https://www.thesmartclinics.co.uk/
http://www.ameliesfollies.co.uk/
https://www.westminster-wealth.com/andrew-rankin-enquiries
catty29a
Posts: 58
Joined: Nov 2009
Options:
Share this post on:

Re: mother in law Xmas nightmare

Postby catty29a » Tue Jan 03, 2012 11:55 am

Having just spent Christmas with my MIL (at her house) I would say that spending Christmas with someone who is intensely critical and unpleasant towards you is probably best avoided. Having said that, I do feel heartbroken when I watch my husband struggle to support me as I launch into another wailing attck on the woman who is, for all her faults, his mother and my childrens' grandmother. Yes she is passive-aggressive, rude and makes me feel like a worthless human being and as we sat on the M11 in a 3 hour traffic jam whilst fleeing the scene of yet another stress-filled Christmas, I swore to my husband that I will never, ever do it again. But the truth is I probably will do it again because I don't want to be the cause of that look on my husband's face. However, I have said that next year, we stick to our own turf and she'll have to play by my rules.
Post Reply
mum-from-tooting
Posts: 59
Joined: Mar 2010
Options:
Share this post on:

Re: mother in law Xmas nightmare

Postby mum-from-tooting » Tue Jan 03, 2012 6:17 pm

Happy New Year! I don't get on with my MIL at all for so many reasons that it would make a long post but this Xmas was quite amusing and my husband found it quite hilarious too so thought it may make you laugh a bit too...
She lives abroad and comes to the UK too often and insists to treat our home as hers and by that I mean she tells you when she is coming but never when she is leaving, helps herself to everything but never replaces it, invites people over to stay or eat without asking, asks to use the car but not to pay for the extra insurance, wants to be served dinner, never clears the table, the lists goes on. Last xmas she invited a few people for xmas lunch, cooked and hosted as if in her own home however did not do any of the dishes, tidy up, burnt our worktops in two places by putting burning pots on them without protection so this year thought I would plan ahead and book a restaurant. This did not go down well but had my husband's full support so she reluctantly agreed but here the fun begins:
- the restaurant was too far (15 mins drive)
- the road was too trafficky (hardly anyone on the road)
- we asked her to drive her own car as our car cannot accommodate a third person with the two car seats at the back but she felt this was unfair to ask her especially as she did not want to eat out in the first place so had to have my husband and her in one car an d me and one of my daughter in another
- Arrived at the restaurant and proceeded to sit in her coat and hat as she said the pub was too cold (we were fine)
- She had also briefed her other son and his girlfriend which were happy to indulge her and also sit in full winter gear (my husband doesn't get on with his half brother, nothing to do with me), all other people in the restaurant were dressed normally
- the menu was not deemed to be festive enough
- the decorations not Christmassy enough
- the coke was too watery
My husband and I had to start laughing as it was getting pretty ridiculous but whilst I am totally not bothered by how annoyed she is when she doesn't get her own way and goes into temper tantrums (tears, insults, crisis...), I was hugely annoyed by how rude she was to the staff - there was absolutely no need for that and had to apologise to them behind her back.

What shall I do next year? Any ideas?
Post Reply

Start a conversation
To create a new post and start a new conversation, please click on the button.