Disposable or reusable nappies?

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Disposable or reusable nappies?

Postby hayleybalmers » Sat May 03, 2014 5:58 pm

Hi,

I'm having my first baby in 3 months and just starting to think about what we need.

I'm quite environmentally conscious and like the idea of using reusable nappies but have no idea which ones to use, how many we need, to what age / weight they need replacing…..

Any past experience would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks

Hayley
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Re: Disposable or reusable nappies?

Postby BatterseaSquareMum » Sun May 04, 2014 9:24 am

Hi ... I agree with Petal.

My advice Hayley would be....

Be good to your baby and only use water, cotton pads and almond oil on their gentle bottom;

Be good to your community and collect baby wipe packs to donate to Ellie's Fund -http://www.nappyvalleynet.com/mums/view ... nd#p109210

Be good to the environment and recycle (as much as living in London allows!)

and..

Be good to yourself, and use disposable nappies.

xx
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Postby papinian » Sun May 04, 2014 1:33 pm

Disposal nappies are (very marginally) better for the environment. See report here of study (also possible to view original study via google search):
http://www.ovoenergy.com/2013/06/reusab ... vironment/

I think you can do a reusuable nappy with disposal liner-things. That is apparently the most eco-friendly, but not sure how usable it is.

Perhaps the most eco-friendly thing to do would be to toilet train your child at a reasonable age. So embarrassing seeing three year olds in this country who are not toilet-trained yet.
http://www.parentingscience.com/potty-training-age.html
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Postby supermummy » Sun May 04, 2014 9:17 pm

I can't answer your question exactly but this might help.

http://www.bambinogoodies.co.uk/10-best ... and-wraps/

http://www.goreal.org.uk/real-nappy-week

Personally, I felt any Eco benefits were far outweighed by the practicalities of disposables but a friend of mine swears by resusables!
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Postby topmama » Sun May 04, 2014 9:38 pm

I used reusable nappies for both my children. They are a bit harder work than disposables but once you get used to them they are fine.

I lived in Fulham when I had my first child and at the time (2008/9) the council gave all new parents £30 towards cloth nappies they also hosted monthly events called nappicino's presented by a couple of parents who were very pro real nappies. They talked about why to use real nappies and demonstrated a few , may be worth checking the H&F website. At the time Bumgenius (version 3) were the favourite and I bought 20 of these. They are an all-in-one nappy (over cover and 2 inserts) that grow with the child so you only need about 20 to last from birth to toilet training. They cost about £15 each but I got a discount and the voucher so paid about £200.

With real nappies you have to change every 3/4 hours otherwise you get leaks but as long as you know that they are great. You wash as 60 degrees and use very little detergent and sometimes a napisan. I considered using a washing service but we have a warm large kitchen and the nappies tended to dry over night, they are made of a quick drying material. I washed every 3 days, kept the soiled nappies in a bucket. Once you wean use a very fine paper liner that generally contained the poo which you flush down the loo. So there is very little poo and not much smell.......particularly compared to disposables!

I did however use pampers at night, I could not find anything better and did not want my babies waking because they were wet ....as well as hungry! However I know there are some good environmentally friendly disposables, that have a high percentage of biodegradable material. Websites like 'spirit of nature' are good for this.

I agree with a previous post that they are probably too hard work for a newborn when you can have frequent changes and there are lots of other things to get used to. Mine were both quite small and had thin legs so the nappies did not fit around the leg until 6-8 weeks.

Once my babies started feeding they grew fast and were both chunky babies. So there were some clothes that did not fit so well around a larger bottom so no skinny jeans!.... i know there are some websites that sell clothes for real nappies but I just made sure the bottoms were not too tight.

Youtube had some great videos of how to use a range of real nappies I loved Bumgenius and I am sure there is a version 4 and a lots of different designs now.

The are some Facebook sites like:
'Bumgenuis bums' and 'Cloth nappies for sale' which are worth looking at.

Good luck with the new baby. Please pm me if you want anymore info.
Sorry for the long post.
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Postby Julialouisebailey » Mon May 05, 2014 1:20 pm

Naty nappies from birth you can get them from Ocado/Waitrose. I use them when we go out & overnight, they are biodegradable & completely enviro friendly organic ect. For days at home I alternate between bum genius & little lamb, post above v good. Good luck!
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Postby Julialouisebailey » Mon May 05, 2014 1:25 pm

Also, having read the study- it is based on someone tumble drying half of the reusable nappies -something that someone who was environmentally conscious would never do & it ruins the nappies anyway. So reusable still best in my opinion.
A report for the Environment Agency in 2008 compared the environmental impact of both types of nappy over a two-and-a-half year period. It found that using disposables creates around 550kg of carbon emissions, where reusables could create up to 570kg of carbon emissions! Why? Because of the way they’re washed and dried.

This figure is based on washing the nappies at 60°C, drying three out of four loads on a washing line and tumbling drying the rest. Doesn’t sound like an unreasonable process, does it?

- See more at: http://www.ovoenergy.com/2013/06/reusab ... GKvMF.dpuf
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Postby Pod » Mon May 05, 2014 2:26 pm

Hi there,
I currently use cloth nappies and cloth wipes, BumGenius

In the beginning I had grand plans of cloth from the word go, but with a sick baby in hospital and very unwell for the first 6weeks (and very skinny) the cloth nappies were just not happening - we used Naty Biodegradeable for the first 8weeks and water and cotton wool.

Once she was well and putting on weight and we were into the groove a bit more - we started using Dotty Botty newborn and then onto Bumgenius which are amazing! Dry very quickly and use a biodegradable flushable liner which is great for solids as you throw them into the loo (no stinky nappy bins) Teatree oil in a bin with a lid for nappies until wash day.

Cheeky Wipes best thing ever check out their website! www.cheekywipes.com

I'd def do Naty for the first 3-6weeks then when you get in the groove, you can wash nappies twice a week with the wipes and then line dry or indoors on a clothes horse - never tumble dry them it ruins the nappy.

If you're keen to do cloth from the start - use muslins in the Jo Fold (see youtube) and a waterproof newborn wrap over the top. We did this for 2 days until she was admitted to hospital - but she is all good now and happy in her Bumgenius nappies!

Good <Luck xxx
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Postby schoolgatesmum » Mon May 05, 2014 8:37 pm

I used washables for all four of my children. There are some lovely ones available now - I had some gorgeous fleece ones for my youngest. I didn't use for newborn but started when they were about 4 weeks old. Once you get in a routine I don't think it's any more hassle than disposables. There's hardly any smell as the poo gets flushed away with the liner. They dry really quickly so no need to tumble dry. And there are no chemicals next to your baby's bottom. If I was out all day I used Naty disposables and on holiday but otherwise washables worked a treat for me and my older children now think it's great that I used washables (they are forever going on about being environmentally conscious).
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Postby Wants a simpler life » Wed May 21, 2014 10:22 am

I don't think the environment agency study fully represents what happens to disposable nappies in Wandsworth - where I think all non recyclable waste is incinerated not taken to landfill.

It also doesn't take account of the fact that those that use resusable nappies get less nappy rash and potty train earlier, plus they look so cute! - if those aren't selling points for resusable nappies, I don't know what is!

Good luck Hayley!
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Postby AmandaA3333 » Wed May 21, 2014 1:08 pm

I used reusables in the day (easy peasy ones) and the biodegradable disposables at night. I started in the first 2 weeks and continued until I went back to work at one. Planning on doing the same with number 2. I bought my reusables 2nd hand (although it turned out they were basically new). If you're not sure you could buy 2nd hand ones and resell if you didn't use them or replace with new ones if you found they were great. Also there are SO many different types of reusable and everyone has a favourite you can buy a variety second hand and decide which suits you best.

FYI I found I had fewer poo leaks with reusable ones, probably slightly more wee leaks, but all in all very easy to used.

I washed at 40oC , line dried or dried on a clothes horse.

The best biodegradable ones I found were beaming baby- but they are a bit more expensive than some.

Good luck whatever you decide....
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Postby Erykah » Wed May 21, 2014 3:27 pm

I have absolutely loved using cloth nappies and would happily chat to/encourage anyone that wants to. it was tough with 2 kids but with 1 once you're in teh frame of mind of using cloth its not that hard work.
In an environmentally conscious age I'm surprised that there isn't more encouragement to new mums to use cloth. In Australia now there is a premium on disposable nappies to discourage them and i believe you have to/are encouraged to use Cloth in hospital?
If you have hanging space outside it certainly helps ( i wouldn't ever tumble dry which does increase the environmental impact), but I've been through 4 winters with cloth nappies drying inside now and you just have to get into a good routine with washing. I don't like the idea of nappies being incinerated anymore than landfill!
I may have some newborn nappies back from a friend soon if you'd like to try some x
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Postby aliJ77 » Thu May 22, 2014 10:30 am

Hi there,

I had good intentions of using cloth for my daughter so bought a 5 pack of bumgenius pocket nappies but injured my back a few weeks after starting and so gave up.

So I have these 5 (2 yellow, 2 pink and 1 white) to sell. Hardly used and have 2 inserts for each. Bought originally for £70, sell for £15. Will sell separately if you don't know what your having. Would like them to be used as they are very easy once your in the swing of using them.

I can PM a picture if your interested.

Ali
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